Grudge Race........

So..... I have this buddy with a stage1 455 in a 72 Electra convertible looking to talk some smack and wanting a piece of my 66 merc......

The merc is currently a pretty wimpy 390 2v cruiser....... But....... But I have a 428 and a new C6 waiting to go in...... Any ideas on how to whoop on a Buick land yacht with a mercury land yacht?

Suggestions please.... Let's have some fun.... What do you think it gonna take to open a can of whoop ass on him?

put a pump gas 460 in it!

Already have the 428, headers and trans.

Still need converter, center/gears, suspension work and tires........

Dave,

A '72 Electra convertible is a full size car,,,,,and they were big, long and heavy back then. It probably weighs around 5200 lbs with the power windows, power seats, a/c, cruise control, and all those other options. You should be able to beat him with your 390 2 V.

Charlie

He's the one pickin the fight.......LOL

It's been heavily modified...... Duane and Keith have been into it....... Its rolling at least 13.0 probably mid to upper 12's by the time I get this thing done.. The merc is probably 4200 +\- and if it's doing a 15.0 it would be lucky with the 390.

I got a 406 +.060. shot block, it will get that barge moving

Here's a pic of the Engine.

Nice

Thats a cool lookin ole FE Davey

Dave I really fail to see a problem beating the buick. I don't know what ya all got in the 428 for parts but id think mid twelves should be quite easy since my truck runs times in that range with a pump gas 390, 3.70 gears, and the areo package of a barn door. GetERDone...

Bottle in a gym bag. Old street racer trick.

Now you know i'm not a "Man of the Bottle"......

or in the golf club bag in the trunk !!! winnings winning!! once i had to disconnected the bottle in the trunk but good thing the bottle behind the rear fold down seat in my '67 mustang FB 427 car was full !! winnings winning!!
Frank
10.50s@ 132mph on G60x 14 TA radials !!

made 2 passes before the tech guy kicked me out !! and this was in 1980!!! went 10.51 and a 10.53 at 132mph +with no roll bar , no belts , no damper, no trans shield, stock axles , foot braking and drove the car 120 miles to get to the track!
Frank

my youngest taking the "CAR" to grad 3 years ago
Frank

Nice Frank....... LOL Gettin' Some with that stang !!!

Here's a couple of pics of My Merc.

Any opinions on gearing and tires to run?

I'm thinking some 3.50 or 3.89's and if I can get a decent sticky 14 tire to fit the American wheels on thecar now.

dfree383 wrote:So..... I have this buddy with a stage1 455 in a 72 Electra convertible looking to talk some smack and wanting a piece of my 66 merc......

The merc is currently a pretty wimpy 390 2v cruiser....... But....... But I have a 428 and a new C6 waiting to go in...... Any ideas on how to whoop on a Buick land yacht with a mercury land yacht?

Suggestions please.... Let's have some fun.... What do you think it gonna take to open a can of whoop ass on him?

If you're not concerned with cruisin' on the highway or mileage then put a big ratio rear gear in it.

Had it on the pump a few days ago.... Ended up having a bad freaking hydraulic lifter......

Switching to a custom mechanical flat tappet..... will get it back on the pump ASAP........ BLA !!!!

dfree383 wrote:Had it on the pump a few days ago.... Ended up having a bad freaking hydraulic lifter......

Switching to a custom mechanical flat tappet..... will get it back on the pump ASAP........ BLA !!!!

had a stock 73 ltd 429 new and afriend had a new 455 olds 98 that olds would blow the doors off my ltd

I had a 428 that I put in my 67 mustang fastback years ago. It was an original 390 GTA car, but I was young at the time and blew up the 390--so I replaced it with a 428. Ran 10.70s back in 1994.






I think to go up against that highly modified stage 1 455 Buick, you are going to need some pretty aggressive gearing and a good tire to start. I used to run 3.89s with a 28 tall slick, standard 2.46 1st gear in the c6. Could only 60' in the 1.5s and the car was pretty light (3200lbs).

I am assuming the 428 is already built (as pictured?). To make an FE run strong you really need a good cylinder head, go with a solid lifter cam minimum, or just throw the bottle on it. Hopefully you have a good shaft rocker arm setup, I always had some reliability issues with the stock rocker arms once I went with a solid lifter cam until I went with the Comp Cams set up.

Here is a link to the edelbrock RPM heads---check out the flow numbers on the bottom--which illustrates exactly why I went with the 385 series motor instead on my swap. The FE (especially the cylinder head design) is just too dated. Compare those flow numbers to a stock set of Kaase P51s for the 385 series motor.

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/mc/cylheads/ford/fe_perf_rpm.shtml

I ported these C4AE-G castings and added CAj sized valves and the are flowing about like the eddies. I agree a 385 based engine would be a lot faster but the FE belongs in the car and looks right, if he gets me I'll build a genesis block 500+ and throw on some real heads!

Just hide a kit on it and f%#k him up. Just smile and say its a ford, it's fast.

Couple of Pics.