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Post  bbf-falcon April 20th 2010, 11:05 am

Everything looks really great Guy's. Chuck we are lucky to have friends like Damon and Dan. You guy's ALL have did alot of quality work in a little amount of time.
Proud of you all cheers

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Post  Lonewolf1970 June 1st 2010, 7:11 pm

Hey guy there are the pictures I took of the car so far.They are the same ones that I had at the bash.This is mainly for the guys that didn't see them.Chuck's 1970 Mustang: The Rebuild... - Page 8 Camera12Chuck's 1970 Mustang: The Rebuild... - Page 8 Camera13
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Post  richter69 June 1st 2010, 7:13 pm

nice front wheels........... cheers





now you need a hat to fit that hole in the hood............... Idea
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Post  ThndrChkn June 1st 2010, 8:24 pm

Cool deal Chuck. Cool Cool It's coming together nicely.







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Post  hillbillyerv June 1st 2010, 8:25 pm

like i said at the Bash that is gonna be one BADA$$ FOMOCO, cant wait to c her on the track Cool
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Post  '65 T-BOLT June 1st 2010, 10:56 pm

Chuck, glad to see it coming together
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Post  jsracing June 1st 2010, 11:00 pm

Nice Job Chuck, She looks all too famialar. Its gonna be sweet keep up the good work!

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Post  Mark Miller June 2nd 2010, 12:03 am

Chuck,

Thanks for posting the pictures for the people that couldn't make it to the Bash.The cars coming along good,i kind of like the blue and the yellow.Maybe you could come up with a nice Blue and Yellow paint scheme.Are you and Damon going to make the Columbus NMRA Race again this year?

Later Mark.

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Post  Shawn Sexton June 4th 2010, 6:36 am

Hi Chuck-

Just wanted to say that's a great job you're doing there.

Looks like a real Pro Job.

I was wondering if you know how many feet of tubing you used for the project, or did you buy a pre-bent kit?

How much was the tubing per foot?

I'm currently doing the research to find out if it's better to just buy a prebent kit (~$1500.00) from chassis engineering, because they are just down the road from me, or buy the straight tubing and bend myself. Got to buy the bender too, so that's an added expense. C/E charges $4.60/ft for 1 5/8 x .134 M/S tubing.

I saw another site where the feet of tubing is around 400 ft. to do a chassis. Does this sound close to what you did?

Also did you use other diameter tubing in the build?

Sorry for all the questions, but I've been following your project with much enthusiasm and would like to try redoing my carr too!

good luck with your shakedown runs!

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Post  '65 T-BOLT June 4th 2010, 8:17 am

Shawn, I am about ready to re-do my 65 Fairlane. Check out Alstonracing.com...they quoted me $1090 shipped for their prolink chassis. If I go with their kit it will be the progas kit, with round tube, ladders, and struts. I have the bender, and welders...mig and access to tig. I am going with 36" ladder bars (alston sells 32")...this is why I am leaning to building my own....main chassis should be 1 5/8
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Post  Shawn Sexton June 4th 2010, 9:25 am

thanks Tbolt

That's about where I'm at with it, but at C/E cost of 4.60 ft, that would add up pretty quick

Just wanted to nail down some of the costs to make a good choice, either build from scratch (Cost of bender, straight tubing, notcher etc.) or just use the money for the bender to buy the prebent kit from C/E for around $1500.00 I can pick up, so no freight. Down side to this is it wouldn't be custom fit to the car.

I already have a welder thats up to the task.

Decisions, decisions....
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Post  '65 T-BOLT June 4th 2010, 9:42 am

the tubing here is also 4.60 per foot...I am looking at about 570 with tax....that is about 110 feet of 1 5/8 ms. that is just for the main bars...not including the second part of the door X and all other small bars.
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Post  DILLIGASDAVE June 4th 2010, 9:45 am

Required tubing OD size & wall thickness for A mild steel door car really depends on how fast you want to go.

To be NHRA/IHRA "rule book legal" for an 8.50 & slower door car, most of the ms required "must have to be legal" cage bars will need to be a minimum of .118" thick (in various diameters). But if you step up to the faster door car SFI specs for ms (8.49 to 7.50), only the 1-5/8 OD tubing has to be a minimum of .118" thick. For all the rest of the required tubing used that is 1-1/2 OD & smaller, SFI allows you to use thinner wall tubing (minimum .108" thick).

So for example take a mild steel SFI legal full chassis car's main inner frame rails in the driver area. You don't have to use 1-5/8 OD x .118" wall (.120 DOM or .134 HREW) if you don't want to because SFI allows you to use smaller/thinner tubing (1-1/2 OD x .108 wall) for the main inner frame rails in the driver compartment.

Just depends on which way you want to go. SFI ms "legal" requires more bars, but you get to use thinner tubing on a number of the bars. NHRA/IHRA ms "rule book legal" requires less total bars, but they are all at the thicker wall.
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Post  Shawn Sexton June 4th 2010, 9:59 am

DILLIGASDAVE wrote:Required tubing OD size & wall thickness for A mild steel door car really depends on how fast you want to go.

To be NHRA/IHRA "rule book legal" for an 8.50 & slower door car, most of the ms required "must have to be legal" cage bars will need to be a minimum of .118" thick (in various diameters). But if you step up to the faster door car SFI specs for ms (8.49 to 7.50), only the 1-5/8 OD tubing has to be a minimum of .118" thick. For all the rest of the required tubing used that is 1-1/2 OD & smaller, SFI allows you to use thinner wall tubing (minimum .108" thick).

So for example take a mild steel SFI legal full chassis car's main inner frame rails in the driver area. You don't have to use 1-5/8 OD x .118" wall (.120 DOM or .134 HREW) if you don't want to because SFI allows you to use smaller/thinner tubing (1-1/2 OD x .108 wall) for the main inner frame rails in the driver compartment.

Just depends on which way you want to go. SFI ms "legal" requires more bars, but you get to use thinner tubing on a number of the bars. NHRA/IHRA ms "rule book legal" requires less total bars, but they are all at the thicker wall.

Thanks for the clarification, I suspected that the min. regs. I.E. 1 5/8" .118 was for the main structural cage, but wasn't clear on all other tubing.

I'm going to jump back over to my other post to continue this, sorry Chuck for imosing on your project post, just got a little too enthused!
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Post  D. Sea June 4th 2010, 11:10 pm

Bill will have to chime in here but I remember one size tubing he used was something like 120' ? It sure tunred out nice and we thank Bill for his quality work Cool
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Post  '65 T-BOLT June 5th 2010, 11:07 pm

Bill does EXCELLENT work! I just cannot afford him!
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Post  dfree383 July 5th 2010, 7:37 am

This thing rolling yet????
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Post  jbozzelle July 5th 2010, 1:02 pm

Yeah guys. How's this project coming along?

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Post  D. Sea July 5th 2010, 9:13 pm

Funny you should ask. I just left Bill and Chuck at the shop, had to get Logan & Tracy home.

Bill helped me do a little wiring at the shop for a 30 amp RV Receptacle and help Chuck with "The Project". When I left, the front end was on the ground and they were working on the rear suspension.

Looking pretty SWEET I may add Cool

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Thanks for helping with the wiring, I owe you one buddy Very Happy

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Post  cool40 July 5th 2010, 10:13 pm

pic's pic's pic's! Laughing
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Post  jbozzelle July 5th 2010, 10:17 pm

Where are the pics? Don't tease us!!!

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Post  ThndrChkn July 6th 2010, 9:04 am

Yeah Damon. You should know by now, that stories on here are no good without pics. Wink Very Happy It's good to hear Chuck's keepin' after it. Hope he gets it to the track before the season's out.










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Post  56Tbird July 6th 2010, 11:16 am

Gonna be rollin in here for some serious body repair and paint someday???? Twisted Evil king
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