This video is a MUST watch......!

billandlori wrote:Thats awesome Doug.

Bill

ndmus88gteng wrote:for example, I thought I got something in my eye, at work, I do hvac, sheetmetal ( hang duct) , for a living, run my own business, we pay taxes, workers comp ins, real printed pay checks, but cant afford health ins.


anyho the eye doc, took 5 mins to look at my eye and write a scrip, for an allergy, prob from the new cat , the kids brought home, long story short, it was $110 dollars for 5 minutes of his time,
5 mins X 12 = 1 hour ,, so 12 x 100 = 1200 dollars if it woulda been an hour ??? WTF point is if they all would get real about the cost, instead of getting RICH, off the workin folks, health care would be more affordable,

I bet that 80 thou mercedes out in the parkin lot belonged to the doc. but he was a very nice guy. !!

just my .02 cents Rick

8liter wrote:Who runs medicare? I know it aint perfect but what other options do the elderly and the poor have? I guess we dont need it either?

My father had open heart surgery in 2007 and didnt have to pay anything. If he hadnt had Medicare it would have left him destitute.

I pay taxes just like everbody else (and dont much like it) but I will gladly pay more if it can help my family or friends. Wouldn't you?

I'm sure lots of us make donations to the church. Sometimes they do things with that money that doesnt suit every member, but how many of us openly complain about how the church uses that money? How many call it Socialism?

This debate will go back and forth forever with the opposing sides using facts, figures and examples until we're blue in the face. In the mean time what about the millions of people without health care who dont fit into the poor/elderly catagory? I guess they just need to wait and have that next trip to the hospital to put put them in the former?



agreed on several points, medicare is a GREAT thing, for what it was intended, no one said it wasn't, my grand parents both used it in time of great need.


another point, I'll keep it the shorter version, in 06 I ordered a meal out, chicken fingers, bbq styled, the next morning, felt like crap. HAD to go to work, figured it would work out, wrong, by quitting time, my helper, had to drive me to the emergency room. they checked me out couldn't find anything, sent me home, with some script. two days later I show up again, still doubled over in pain, finally admitted me, took 3 days, to get over the food poison, and the 4th day ,I could eat solids again, so doc sent me home. bottom line bill to doctor and hospital was 29 THOUSAND dollars, I messed around and tried to make payment arrangements, the hospitals would work , but the doctors wouldn't work with me on it.

now how long would it take to pay that much off. long story short , I filed bankrupcy on the whole shooting match, finally got my credit back to fair now, so I WISH I had some ins then. but for the answer I have no Idea, Thanxs

Rick

The status quo is not the answer.

IcallhimGeorge wrote:I sympathise 10000% with you on the medical bill deal.

Im 28 and in perfect health. Never sick, never broken anything (except for a couple fingers and toes that I didnt go to the dr for), never had stitches, etc...Im probably against the norm. I had back surgery May 26th and my total medical bill was 180k and some change. The insurance company paid for all but about 10k of it even though I was told pre-surgery I had a 5k cap. The extra 5k was general BS items they nickle and dimed me to death on. The next day after my surgery I had to use a walker to walk down the hall before they would release me....I got billed $150 for the walker. I didnt get to take it home. I didnt break it. I probably only put 2-300' of use on the wheels. The real kick in the face part is the hospital sub'd out a PT company to handle all post op stuff like mine and that company sub'd it out one further then sub'd out a 4th supplier for the walker itself. I probably have 6+hrs of sitting on hold just to dispute the $150 walker. Not to mention the other $4,850 worth of extra bs I wasnt expecting to pay for.


Get this...
I was told by my Dr that the hospital bills the insurance company $10,000 each for the two titanium lag bolts and 12,000 for the titanium rod they put in my back.