Say it ain't so!

Work all week getting car ready for the 2nd trip to the track with my new 557 engine.
It is sounding and running great! Going back for tnt.
The last thing I had to do is check valve lash again. Check passenger side out ok.
Pull driver side and notice a small pin lying on top of the head, look futher and found one side of the
rocker bearing retainer cup too, and it was empty, where are all the other little pins from my crane gold rockers.
Only one side of the rocker lost its pins. Man I am petty down about this, Say It Ain't So!
I did change the old and I did fine about 2 of them so now thats 3 of 30.
I still have the old filter will be cutting it open today! What a stomach ache.
Just thought I talk about it.

Are they the ones w/o the retaining clips on the end of the shaft?

Melvin ,take a piece of wire with a magnet on the end of it. Stick it in your drain hole and run the wire around. The pins have to be in the pan. They're too big to go through your screen on your oil sump. Good luck...It sounds like you can sure use some!!

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This is it.

Thanks 56 bird,

^ yes,and spray some brake clean down the oil return holes to losen up sticky ones,and tap pan with a rubber hammer while tryin to find them,have you found any broken ones?

BOSS 429 wrote:^ yes,and spray some brake clean down the oil return holes to losen up sticky ones,and tap pan with a rubber hammer while tryin to find them,have you found any broken ones?

No broken ones yet, Will do!

Lem Evans wrote:Are they the ones w/o the retaining clips on the end of the shaft?

Yes!

Get them off the engine. Sooner or later others will have the cracked/split bearing cage. The Crane gold and FRRP blue [crane also] with the retainer clips are good rockers.

Lem Evans wrote:Get them off the engine. Sooner or later others will have the cracked/split bearing cage. The Crane gold and FRRP blue [crane also] with the retainer clips are good rockers.

Done!

I had the very same thing happen on a 351-c with the crane gold rockers, but they were some old NASCAR take offs. I think it's just a fatigue thing. I still run the Crane golds.

So Far everything is looking petty good, open oil filter and no bearing pins in it.
Checking oil pan so far nothing. Could have fell out in last engine build

67460 wrote:So Far everything is looking petty good, open oil filter and no bearing pins in it.
Checking oil pan so far nothing. Could have fell out in last engine build

Melvin there will not be any pins in the oil filter if so the Pump will be shot!!!!!!!!!!! the pins will not go thru the pump if they do it will wipe out the rotors......

the Coug wrote:

67460 wrote:So Far everything is looking petty good, open oil filter and no bearing pins in it.
Checking oil pan so far nothing. Could have fell out in last engine build

Melvin there will not be any pins in the oil filter if so the Pump will be shot!!!!!!!!!!! the pins will not go thru the pump if they do it will wipe out the rotors......

right thats why i said cut the filter, ive seen them make it thru to the filter in small parts,thus hurting the pump

the Coug wrote:

67460 wrote:So Far everything is looking petty good, open oil filter and no bearing pins in it.
Checking oil pan so far nothing. Could have fell out in last engine build

Melvin there will not be any pins in the oil filter if so the Pump will be shot!!!!!!!!!!! the pins will not go thru the pump if they do it will wipe out the rotors......

I'm sure glad of that.

If the pan is off it'd be a simple matter to inspect the internals of the oil pump.

Pull engine and found the little guys,

REAR SUMP
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FRONT SUMP
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DID YOU GET NEW ROCKERS YET?

BOSS 429 wrote:DID YOU GET NEW ROCKERS YET?

They should arive in a day or two, went with crowers stainless.

What a PITA for a piece of junk rocker!! But at least you know your engine is well!!

Yea, better to take it apart and check than not know.

For sure, didn't want to do it but glad I did,


by 56Tbird on July 12th 2011, 6:28 am
What a PITA for a piece of junk rocker!! But at least you know your engine is well!! king

dfree383 wrote:Yea, better to take it apart and check than not know.

Your luck is improving Melvin!

Sorry to see this happen though. Glad you caught it.
Regards.
Al

67460 wrote:

They should arive in a day or two, went with crowers stainless.

Melvin you won't regret it. I had a set on the last engine and they were a work of art, and like Randy M told me "You can put them in the will for the grandkids". I know Lem has used more than a few sets too and speaks quite highly of them.

Glad you found 'em OK. Just FYI, next time any steel parts fall into the pan, just use a fairly strong magnet....stick it to the underside of the pan and drag it toward the drain plug hole, then pull it away. The steel parts will follow the magnet to the hole. If you carefully "cover" the entire bottom of the pan, you may find all your junk without a teardown.