Project "Iron Man" underway.
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Project "Iron Man" underway.
Well I am finally getting to start my Iron Man project. I have a pre emission 460 with D3 heads and the low comprression. I am gonna massage the heads and the 4 hole square bore dual plane piece from the factory. I am going to see what this cheap combo is gonna do.
I am getting the heads worked to install roller rockers and guide plates. I had thought of doing a hydraluic cam but I think I am gonna stick in a good little solid flat tappet setup. Use one of my holley 750 carbs and run it with a stall I have and let her rip. Should be a decent powerful bracket toy till I am able to install my big toy. I even checked the rod and main bearings, they looked a little worn out so I am gonna replace them and should be good to go.
Funny thing is I might like this motor so much I might not wanna take it out.
Paid $300 for motor and C6 trans. Ran good, no smoke or knocks. The trans has never been off of the motor. A old man had it in a car and only drove it every 5 or 6 months to run it around a little.
I am getting the heads worked to install roller rockers and guide plates. I had thought of doing a hydraluic cam but I think I am gonna stick in a good little solid flat tappet setup. Use one of my holley 750 carbs and run it with a stall I have and let her rip. Should be a decent powerful bracket toy till I am able to install my big toy. I even checked the rod and main bearings, they looked a little worn out so I am gonna replace them and should be good to go.
Funny thing is I might like this motor so much I might not wanna take it out.
Paid $300 for motor and C6 trans. Ran good, no smoke or knocks. The trans has never been off of the motor. A old man had it in a car and only drove it every 5 or 6 months to run it around a little.
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Curt- Posts : 2791
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Re: Project "Iron Man" underway.
300$ motor is the best kind! go beat on it and have fun.
cool40- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Project "Iron Man" underway.
spend the few hundred dollars and find a set of early small chamber heads. Especialy if your going to put any money in the D3's.
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I had a hard enough time trying to find a decent big block ford that someone would part with. This is kinda of a test for my skills and knowledge for me to see what my results are. All I have to do now is find out how much lift I can go on the cam without having any PTV clearence trouble. I will be posting up some pics and the build items as I go.
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Timing and duration has to due with P to V not the actual max lift.
You need to watch retainer to guide / seal clearance, typical .535 to .540 is about it.
You need to watch retainer to guide / seal clearance, typical .535 to .540 is about it.
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You trying to use the old pistons?
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138 wrote:You trying to use the old pistons?
Yea, the shortblock is in very good condition.
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find some d0ve heads! you'll thank me later.
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With a swap from d3's to small chamber heads will it run on pump gas?...
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yep,and he should do the timing chain deal too if it aint been done yet.138 wrote:With a swap from d3's to small chamber heads will it run on pump gas?...
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Yeap...and a plate too. Might as well make it fun.
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As soon as I get more of my plan together I will post up a list of specs and parts, might have it tomorrow. I will give better details about the motor as well.
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that may be overkill. but...........125 hit would'nt hurt.138 wrote:Yeap...and a plate too. Might as well make it fun.
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Ok here is what I have so far.....
I'm looking at some early style C8,C9,Dove heads doing my port work with the stock valves, Thanks Mr Hobbs.
Keeping the iron 4 barell dual plane manifold, with some port work.
Running a holley 750 carb.
New rod and main bearings in the shortblock
Building some 1 3/4 in shorty or mid length headders.
Lunati cams, a couple to choose from, here is the one I had in mind...
ADV. 276/286
@.050 247/256
106 LSA 100 ICL
LIFT .630/.637
I am guessing my compression should be around 9.5:1 but all in all I think this should be a fun modded stock style motor.
I'm looking at some early style C8,C9,Dove heads doing my port work with the stock valves, Thanks Mr Hobbs.
Keeping the iron 4 barell dual plane manifold, with some port work.
Running a holley 750 carb.
New rod and main bearings in the shortblock
Building some 1 3/4 in shorty or mid length headders.
Lunati cams, a couple to choose from, here is the one I had in mind...
ADV. 276/286
@.050 247/256
106 LSA 100 ICL
LIFT .630/.637
I am guessing my compression should be around 9.5:1 but all in all I think this should be a fun modded stock style motor.
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Re: Project "Iron Man" underway.
I would get a cheap used aluminum duel plane....dont waste your time grinding on a stock iron one..
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138 wrote:I would get a cheap used aluminum duel plane....dont waste your time grinding on a stock iron one..
I know, this project is to see what I can do with the factory stuff. I am more or less gasket matching and smoothing out the ruff areas. I am spending the money for the A-headded beast so I rather be buying stuff for that.
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Tennessee Bullitt wrote:Ok here is what I have so far.....
I'm looking at some early style C8,C9,Dove heads doing my port work with the stock valves, Thanks Mr Hobbs.
Keeping the iron 4 barell dual plane manifold, with some port work.
Running a holley 750 carb.
New rod and main bearings in the shortblock
Building some 1 3/4 in shorty or mid length headders.
Lunati cams, a couple to choose from, here is the one I had in mind...
ADV. 276/286
@.050 247/256
106 LSA 100 ICL
LIFT .630/.637
I am guessing my compression should be around 9.5:1 but all in all I think this should be a fun modded stock style motor.
Thats to much cam....... Get down in the 230's on the intake. I also assume your not expecting to run stock rockers with that kind of lift. Look at Lunati 61603.
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That cam is a solid flat tappet That is the biggest one... here is the other one I was looking as well, it's smaller too.
ADV 277/284
@.050 243/251
LSA/ICL 110/104
LIFT .608/.611
OF course I am still keeping the idea of building my own cam. I love how I can browse this forum and read what people build and see results, and with all the information from a lot of people I can get good ideas on how to setup a motor. I built the last cam in my SCJ motor and I got almost a tenth faster and another 2mph with a nitrous built cam from the N/A cam.
ADV 277/284
@.050 243/251
LSA/ICL 110/104
LIFT .608/.611
OF course I am still keeping the idea of building my own cam. I love how I can browse this forum and read what people build and see results, and with all the information from a lot of people I can get good ideas on how to setup a motor. I built the last cam in my SCJ motor and I got almost a tenth faster and another 2mph with a nitrous built cam from the N/A cam.
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Still a little on the big side.......... for a 9.5:1, Factory intake motor.
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Okay, aside of camshaft selection. I have the shortblock reassemblied with new rod and main bearings, A full gasket kit sitting in the truck. I also have a new hi-volume oil pump. I even went out to repaint the block the orginal color, old ford blue. I squirted some aluminum paint on the intake manifold. as well as the heads when I get them. The valve covers are orginal blue as well I need to post some pics so far. I have done everything in house. I have decided on the camshaft I am going to break down and build my camshaft for this thing, after all I want this to be a decent setup.
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Get the Lemster to get a cam
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to big a cam for what your doing....
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I think that 1 3/4" headers are "marginal" at best, and would definitely be a "bottle neck" to future power improvements. Your headers should be at least 1 7/8" / 2".
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Wayne Pearce wrote:I think that 1 3/4" headers are "marginal" at best, and would definitely be a "bottle neck" to future power improvements. Your headers should be at least 1 7/8" / 2".
Wayne (SAWDOFF) Pearce
So weather a big block is all stock or modded it still would require good size headders? Thanks for the tip because I wanna redo the exhaust on my F350 sometime in the next 100yrs.
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