Who runs a Liberty??

Anybody run a Liberty?? if so what's the pro's and con's of one.
I know they are very expensive but everything on my car is expensive!!

You talking manual transmission? IMO stick with a glide if you are, much less maintence and easier for the kid to drive as a beginner. You already have way more car than a 16 YO should be in already.

the clutch set up, adjustments, upkeep etc is a pita.........$$$$$$

D's557BBF wrote:Anybody run a Liberty?? if so what's the pro's and con's of one.
I know they are very expensive but everything on my car is expensive!!

So, you are looking for an expensive problem?

I switched to a Liberty at the end of last year. Broke the Jerico to many times for my taste. Had to cut most of trans tunnel out to get it in. It's a blast to drive. Yep there's maintenance, made 40 or so passes this year, four or five clutch adjustments. Do plan on a clutch change over the winter. www.classicgearjammers.org Steve

no liberty here but will try a 4 speed lenco some time in the near future

You're going to let Wesley drive it?

Libertys are nice but do require a lot of maintenance. Clutch set up is key and not so easy for the novice. Getting the clutch to slip enough thru low gear and not blow thru it in higher gears seems to be the hardest part. Once you do get it set the disc wears and you have to start again. A data logger I think would also be a must have.

We were gonna put one in dads car but decided the g-force was the better option. It's held up well but it's not clutch less. My votes for the glide especially if ur boys gonna drive. JMO.

D's557BBF wrote:Anybody run a Liberty?? if so what's the pro's and con's of one.
I know they are very expensive but everything on my car is expensive!!

Personally, I'm no expert on the Liberty, but I race with a bunch of guys that do. I repeatedly hear how much better they are than Jerico, G-force, and the Nash stuff. You will need a good slipper style sintered iron clutch setup. A data logger is highly recomended to help dial in the clutch without tearing things up. I have a base RPM Data unit that was about $500, and works fine. If you set the clutch up correctly, the trans will probably need far less maintence than a glide. Big tires and a good chassis are very helpful when running a BBF, I'm not the best example of this though. Check this link for a wealth of info on stick cars. http://www.umtrnorth.com/forums/default.asp ( It load slow sometimes.)

Ken

SCREW the clutch put a BRUNO in front of it................

Liberty and justice for all

Clutch set up is key for any stick car. But with the Liberty's dual cluster shaft design they will take more clutch. I spoke with Tenon about this, the power i have and the weight of my car. I run my base pressure at 800# now. Started off at 600# and worked up to where it is now, fill it slip, add some more base pressure. Keep good notes and use them, go to a track that you know hooks hard, take some out and work up from there. A Data logger will take all the guess work out, and will pick up my 60'. Two other gearjammers had a lot of trans breaks last year. Went with a Boninfante set up, 87 runs and no breaks this year. If you run a BBF in a fox body with a stick, the cable type set up will not work. They are some hyd deals out there but setting your air gap at the release bearing can get tricky.
www.classicgearjammers.org Steve

My junk is the blue T-bird Steve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojAQlqRNrgw&feature=uploademail

I know some of the old high winding Pro Stock Truck guys used the old single cluster clutchless G-Force 5 speed trans (basically similar to the old Doug Nash 5 speed trans design laid on it's side) with success. But when you added more torque/power in front of them (bigger engine and/or big nitrous) the single cluster setup didn't always hold up too well.

Clutch vs converter.......it's hard to dismiss the torque multiplication benefit you get from a torque converter.

Dave not including the cost of a clutch every now and then having to resurface the damn thing, Just put the Bruno in front of it get your converter and buckle up the stick and let her rip...

so you guys are saying that a auto is better than a stick ?here we go again, iam running a hemi doug nash in my car, haven,t run it yet, motor will be a 545 with about 750-780 hp on motor and 880 on nos! looking to run low 9,s so will the nash trans hold up? or do i need a liberty trans to get 6.00 to 5.90 1/8 mile times,got the doug nash trans and sinter iron clutch already!let me know what you guys think!

If you got it try it...... If it works and your happy with the maintence.... then its a win. if not switch to a glide later, if your not happy.

dfree383 wrote:If you got it try it...... If it works and your happy with the maintence.... then its a win. if not switch to a glide later, if your not happy.

make since to me defree383! will try! and thanks for the reply!