Fox mustang hood clearance
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Fox mustang hood clearance
What intakes clears a stock hood on a fox with 460 ?
What's needed to clear say a victor, rpm or stealth?
Lower engine? Offset rack bushings? Spacers on k member?
What's needed to clear say a victor, rpm or stealth?
Lower engine? Offset rack bushings? Spacers on k member?
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
Torker II with no spacer and 1.5 in K frame spacers clears the stock hood. Till you floor it, and the air cleaner wingnut makes a dent in your new paint job. A chain fixes that. Motor plates would probably eliminate the whole problem.
cletus66- Posts : 865
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
what mounts did you use?
What springs on the front? Did you lower the front suspension?
What springs on the front? Did you lower the front suspension?
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
Dave , you have to work with your headers as far as lowering the k member. Most headers are built around the stock k member and cant be lowered.
Darrin Gorham- Posts : 180
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
A little Data on a few Common Manifolds
Edelbrock Performer F 3.75 R 4.49 Avg 4.12
Edelbrock Performer RPM F 4.18 R 6.15 Avg 5.48
Edelbrock Torker 2 F 3.50 R 4.25 Avg 3.87
Edelbrock Victor F 6.30 R 6.30 Avg 6.30
Weiand Stealth F 5.25 R 6.75 Avg 6.00
Weiand Tunnel Ram F 9.93 R 10.31 Avg 10.12
Edelbrock Performer F 3.75 R 4.49 Avg 4.12
Edelbrock Performer RPM F 4.18 R 6.15 Avg 5.48
Edelbrock Torker 2 F 3.50 R 4.25 Avg 3.87
Edelbrock Victor F 6.30 R 6.30 Avg 6.30
Weiand Stealth F 5.25 R 6.75 Avg 6.00
Weiand Tunnel Ram F 9.93 R 10.31 Avg 10.12
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
dfree383 wrote:what mounts did you use?
What springs on the front? Did you lower the front suspension?
D-D mounts and shorty headers. I also got a telescoping steering shaft from Maximum Motorsports, along with their caster/camber plates. The springs are what came on the car when I bought it. It has a stock K-frame and control arms, so I wouldn't be surprised if they are stock 4 banger springs. I didn't try to adjust the ride height. It is what it is.....
cletus66- Posts : 865
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
Dave I know you ask of stock hood clearance and one thing comes to mind. Did the year model you question offer a hood scoop or raised hood of sorts? May be far more economical than the alternate route!
Dave.
Dave.
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
No, the 86 models did not have a scoop like the earlier ones.
I'm thinking I may be able to fit a Victor with a 2.5" cowl, rack drop, and kmember spacers.
I'm thinking I may be able to fit a Victor with a 2.5" cowl, rack drop, and kmember spacers.
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
dfree383 wrote:No, the 86 models did not have a scoop like the earlier ones.
I'm thinking I may be able to fit a Victor with a 2.5" cowl, rack drop, and kmember spacers.
Machining down the carb pad of a Victor on a forward angle and using a wide thin air cleaner, (like an oval sideways), will barely touch a stock H.O. hood with the k-member spaced down an additional inch. Use a solid motor mount on the left side.
Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
wheres a good source for spacers & hardware for the K member?
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rmcomprandy wrote:dfree383 wrote:No, the 86 models did not have a scoop like the earlier ones.
I'm thinking I may be able to fit a Victor with a 2.5" cowl, rack drop, and kmember spacers.
Machining down the carb pad of a Victor on a forward angle and using a wide thin air cleaner, (like an oval sideways), will barely touch a stock H.O. hood with the k-member spaced down an additional inch. Use a solid motor mount on the left side.
Randy how much needs to be machined?
Have you ever Converted a Torker 2 to a Dominator Carb? Is it worth doing?
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
dfree383 wrote:wheres a good source for spacers & hardware for the K member?
http://bigblockfox.com/
I got these. Scroll down on the left. Fordified Racing K member spacers.
cletus66- Posts : 865
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
left over head bolts work good for the spacers....bobn
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
dfree383 wrote:rmcomprandy wrote:dfree383 wrote:No, the 86 models did not have a scoop like the earlier ones.
I'm thinking I may be able to fit a Victor with a 2.5" cowl, rack drop, and kmember spacers.
Machining down the carb pad of a Victor on a forward angle and using a wide thin air cleaner, (like an oval sideways), will barely touch a stock H.O. hood with the k-member spaced down an additional inch. Use a solid motor mount on the left side.
Randy how much needs to be machined?
Have you ever Converted a Torker 2 to a Dominator Carb? Is it worth doing?
I believe it is .400" on the front and .050" on the rear.
I have never converted a Torquer II to Dominator. pattern.
Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
cletus66 wrote:Torker II with no spacer and 1.5 in K frame spacers clears the stock hood. Till you floor it, and the air cleaner wingnut makes a dent in your new paint job. A chain fixes that. Motor plates would probably eliminate the whole problem.
Yep....1 1/2 inch spacers.
That's exactly how I did it.
Torker II intake.
Also had offset rack bushings and custom made solid engine mounts.
Steering rack to Canton oil pan clearance turned out to be 1/16 inch.
I bought aluminum flat stock and made my own spacers and used long grade 8 bolts. (1/2 inch)
Moroso drop base 14 x 3 aircleaner.
Cleared the stock hood blanket on my ol' 91 Coupe.
The Procharger carb bonnet also cleared.
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
cletus66 wrote:dfree383 wrote:wheres a good source for spacers & hardware for the K member?
http://bigblockfox.com/
I got these. Scroll down on the left. Fordified Racing K member spacers.
We've made 'em out of thick wall 1" square tubing; (I realize that in these days people just want to buy everything and actually MAKING something is beyond most people).
Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
rmcomprandy wrote:cletus66 wrote:dfree383 wrote:wheres a good source for spacers & hardware for the K member?
http://bigblockfox.com/
I got these. Scroll down on the left. Fordified Racing K member spacers.
We've made 'em out of thick wall 1" square tubing; (I realize that in these days people just want to buy everything and actually MAKING something is beyond most people).
for me its a time thing...... I just don't have time to waste fabricating alot of small stuff when its avaliable commercialy for a modest sum.
You also have to count the time involved when chasing down the materials and hardware..........
If its something that very costly vs the materials and time involded, I'll take a run at doing it myself.
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
rmcomprandy wrote:cletus66 wrote:dfree383 wrote:wheres a good source for spacers & hardware for the K member?
http://bigblockfox.com/
I got these. Scroll down on the left. Fordified Racing K member spacers.
We've made 'em out of thick wall 1" square tubing; (I realize that in these days people just want to buy everything and actually MAKING something is beyond most people).
I am incredibly lazy.
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
1-1/2" K-member spacers, Victor, drop base air filter under a stock '83 hood & scoop.
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
dfree383 wrote:rmcomprandy wrote:cletus66 wrote:dfree383 wrote:wheres a good source for spacers & hardware for the K member?
http://bigblockfox.com/
I got these. Scroll down on the left. Fordified Racing K member spacers.
We've made 'em out of thick wall 1" square tubing; (I realize that in these days people just want to buy everything and actually MAKING something is beyond most people).
for me its a time thing...... I just don't have time to waste fabricating alot of small stuff when its avaliable commercialy for a modest sum.
You also have to count the time involved when chasing down the materials and hardware..........
If its something that very costly vs the materials and time involded, I'll take a run at doing it myself.
We already had the metal however, it did take us about 2 1/2 hours time to make 'em,
Leftover head and main bolts from different engines are made good use of at one time or another so, we keep 'em all in boxes...
Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
BigBlockRanger wrote:1-1/2" K-member spacers, Victor, drop base air filter under a stock '83 hood & scoop.
How low are the headers to the ground? Which headers did you use?
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
jbozzelle wrote:BigBlockRanger wrote:1-1/2" K-member spacers, Victor, drop base air filter under a stock '83 hood & scoop.
How low are the headers to the ground? Which headers did you use?
We used:
SHORTIES from Stan at Ford Powertrain Applications in Puyallup, WA. 1(253)848-9503
This was a fun higher power engine swap, everyday street car ... hence the stock H.O. hood.
Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
Thanks Randy
I'm looking to swap a BBF into my 78 Futura. It was always a street car and I see no reason to cut it to pieces with a backhalf, etc... It'll be minitubbed with ladder bars, stock style front end, etc.. I would like to keep the air cleaner tucked under the two or so inch tall forward facing Mustang scoops that car on the early 80's Mustangs...
I'm looking to swap a BBF into my 78 Futura. It was always a street car and I see no reason to cut it to pieces with a backhalf, etc... It'll be minitubbed with ladder bars, stock style front end, etc.. I would like to keep the air cleaner tucked under the two or so inch tall forward facing Mustang scoops that car on the early 80's Mustangs...
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Re: Fox mustang hood clearance
Hookers. They are low, but more because I cut 1 full coil off the front springs than anything. The front of the car sits too low in my opinion. It looks good, but it is a major pain in the ass to get a jack under it. The headers drag a tiny bit pulling into my driveway, but I've had worse.
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