Transmission: Big Horsepower on a Street Car
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Transmission: Big Horsepower on a Street Car
Question: What transmission/converter mods are recommended for a high horsepower combo that sees a lot of street driving?
"Lot of street driving" = Hot Rod Power Tour, cruising to the in-law's house a couple hours away, driving 40 miles to work in traffic, ect.
It seems that 1,000+ HP street cars are becoming more and more common. What are people doing for transmissions for these combos?
-- Sprag vs non-sprag vs diode
-- Cruising under converter stall RPM
-- Transbrake vs no transbrake
-- Lockup vs non-lockup converter
-- Heavy vehicle vs beefing up transmission even more...
-- Ect, ect, ect
My current build is a 547 BBF w/ a rear/mid mount 98mm turbo. I'm shooting for ~1,300 HP in a full weight 4-door F150. I have a C6 transmission that may or may not work for the combo moving forward. I know it has a couple extra clutches in each 'part' of the transmission...
Obviously, any street/strip combo is full of compromises. If I want to go faster, I can always turn up the boost!
I'm hoping to get a preliminary picture of what I'm up against for a reasonably reliable transmission/converter setup.
Have a good day!
Michael
"Lot of street driving" = Hot Rod Power Tour, cruising to the in-law's house a couple hours away, driving 40 miles to work in traffic, ect.
It seems that 1,000+ HP street cars are becoming more and more common. What are people doing for transmissions for these combos?
-- Sprag vs non-sprag vs diode
-- Cruising under converter stall RPM
-- Transbrake vs no transbrake
-- Lockup vs non-lockup converter
-- Heavy vehicle vs beefing up transmission even more...
-- Ect, ect, ect
My current build is a 547 BBF w/ a rear/mid mount 98mm turbo. I'm shooting for ~1,300 HP in a full weight 4-door F150. I have a C6 transmission that may or may not work for the combo moving forward. I know it has a couple extra clutches in each 'part' of the transmission...
Obviously, any street/strip combo is full of compromises. If I want to go faster, I can always turn up the boost!
I'm hoping to get a preliminary picture of what I'm up against for a reasonably reliable transmission/converter setup.
Have a good day!
Michael
96Mustang460cid- Posts : 154
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Re: Transmission: Big Horsepower on a Street Car
a modified C6 sounds like a winner for what your doing.
May also consider a Gear Vendors OD, If you want some Lower RPM cruizin'
May also consider a Gear Vendors OD, If you want some Lower RPM cruizin'
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Re: Transmission: Big Horsepower on a Street Car
So you going to be towing a 5th wheel trailer too? Maybe a modified Allison...
466cj- Posts : 391
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Re: Transmission: Big Horsepower on a Street Car
466cj wrote:So you going to be towing a 5th wheel trailer too? Maybe a modified Allison...
Allison is no better and cost a lot more to build!
whitefield- Posts : 2244
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Re: Transmission: Big Horsepower on a Street Car
whitefield wrote:466cj wrote:So you going to be towing a 5th wheel trailer too? Maybe a modified Allison...
Allison is no better and cost a lot more to build!
if he's thinking of adding a gear vendor unit too then the allison would be something to look at. They arent really that bad to build for that torque range. a LOT less than a good glide. but more than a good c6 you are right about that.
whatbumper- Posts : 3024
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Re: Transmission: Big Horsepower on a Street Car
-- I don't plan on towing anything.
-- Is it bad to have a cruise RPM below the stall of a converter?
I'm trying to find the balance between streetability/reliability and performance. Lots of compromises .
Have a good day!
Michael
-- Is it bad to have a cruise RPM below the stall of a converter?
I'm trying to find the balance between streetability/reliability and performance. Lots of compromises .
Have a good day!
Michael
96Mustang460cid- Posts : 154
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Re: Transmission: Big Horsepower on a Street Car
Cruising under the stall speed how much slip will depend on the converter and how much load under cruise.
Only way around converter slippage is a lock up converter which not going to get with a C-6. For what you want either a properly build E4OD or an Allison. Neither option will be cheap, but you are asking a lot too...
Only way around converter slippage is a lock up converter which not going to get with a C-6. For what you want either a properly build E4OD or an Allison. Neither option will be cheap, but you are asking a lot too...
466cj- Posts : 391
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Re: Transmission: Big Horsepower on a Street Car
Yes, you do not want the cruize RPM below the converter stall. It will make a bunch of heat.
but a 1000+ hp on a correctly set-up streetable turbo engine, should not require a seroius amount of stall IMO.
but a 1000+ hp on a correctly set-up streetable turbo engine, should not require a seroius amount of stall IMO.
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