Class rules question

bruno wrote:

Doug Rahn wrote:

bruno wrote:These are the rules im going by ........
Windshield/Windows: OEM glass or lexan windows are permitted. No visible fasteners.

This one has me baffled! How do you install lexan windows without visible fasteners?

Seen it done many times ..... reinstall factory molding

Okay, but you can't do that with door windows!

bruno wrote:

Doug Rahn wrote:

bruno wrote:These are the rules im going by ........
Windshield/Windows: OEM glass or lexan windows are permitted. No visible fasteners.

This one has me baffled! How do you install lexan windows without visible fasteners?

Seen it done many times ..... reinstall factory molding

Not everyone wants to carry the extra weight of factory moulding. I know it's not much, but either it's a racecar or it isn't...dumb rule in my opinion. But, having raced in the NMRA for years, I can't say I'm surprised...just another BS rule that improves safety in no meaurable way

if the door has a post it can be done


i will say if its a chassis car deal visible rivets etc dont matter and look fine.

Our lexan rolled up and down. Attached to factory hardware in door. Looked like glass. Pro glass

power windows at that....

Nevs wrote:

bruno wrote:

Doug Rahn wrote:

bruno wrote:These are the rules im going by ........
Windshield/Windows: OEM glass or lexan windows are permitted. No visible fasteners.

This one has me baffled! How do you install lexan windows without visible fasteners?

Seen it done many times ..... reinstall factory molding

Not everyone wants to carry the extra weight of factory moulding. I know it's not much, but either it's a racecar or it isn't...dumb rule in my opinion. But, having raced in the NMRA for years, I can't say I'm surprised...just another BS rule that improves safety in no meaurable way

You can take off the moldings if you want ... just leave that heavy factory glass in place.
One or the other.

Doug Rahn wrote:

bruno wrote:

Doug Rahn wrote:

bruno wrote:These are the rules im going by ........
Windshield/Windows: OEM glass or lexan windows are permitted. No visible fasteners.

This one has me baffled! How do you install lexan windows without visible fasteners?

Seen it done many times ..... reinstall factory molding

Okay, but you can't do that with door windows!

The NHRA Super Stock Cuda's and Dart's have plexi-glas side windows which even open. They use a pull-up strap attached to the bottom of the window within the door ... you can't see any fasteners.

richter69 wrote:power windows at that....

darn right! It's the only way to go.

This is what keeps me out of these classes.....stock appearing this, glass that, carpet, interior, blah blah blah. It's a race car. That shit is dangerous should anything happen

yellowhorse7 wrote:This is what keeps me out of these classes.....stock appearing this, glass that, carpet, interior, blah blah blah. It's a race car. That shit is dangerous should anything happen

I agree. it should be a class rule that you cant have stock glass or carpet in the faster classes.

I remember a few years ago, one guy who openly challenged the stupidity of a certain rule.
It was a road race car and they run with the side windows down. The rule stated that regulators and stock factory glass must remain in the door.
He removed all the window tracking leaving JUST the regulator and smash the window into little bits and put it in a plastic tube of PVC in the bottom of the door to have that weight 6 inches off the ground.

That is awesome

for every rule made there is a racer that will bend them.........

richter69 wrote:for every rule made there is a racer that will bend them.........

LOL he broke them

John Myrick wrote:

richter69 wrote:for every rule made there is a racer that will bend them.........

LOL he broke them

He certainly broke the glass but, not the rule, LOL.

yellowhorse7 wrote:This is what keeps me out of these classes.....stock appearing this, glass that, carpet, interior, blah blah blah. It's a race car. That shit is dangerous should anything happen

i have spent alot of money this year updateing my car so i could play in these type of races.its sad to say it but the racer's that dont have this stuff in their cars will get pointed out quickly.around here it started with LS (limited street)a factory car with alot of balls.sevral years and it has turned in to X275,OL275 etc the promoters cant see that these cars are not street driven anymoor or to change the stupid rules.it costs people money to plan around how to keep the stupid interior etc to apeese the gods!

Theoretically then , where I have the black border around my lexan windows with the screws, I could put black tape around the border, then the screws would no longer be visible .

why not use urethane sealer? it works on factory glass.

glad our rules are a lot more lax, the big time races like that like to bs rule you to death............

Doug Rahn wrote:Theoretically then , where I have the black border around my lexan windows with the screws, I could put black tape around the border, then the screws would no longer be visible .

Sharpee... Done it a few times in the past to rave protests.

richter69 wrote:glad our rules are a lot more lax, the big time races like that like to bs rule you to death............

That's why I gave up on the SS if it works better it has to be illegal racing years ago, the money runs out fast when you have to constantly change your combo. It used to be about who could build, and drive better, but now it's who has the deepest pockets and can bend the rules the best. With the technology and combos you can write a check, or slide a card for, if you have the dough, you can run the show...

Doug Rahn wrote:Theoretically then , where I have the black border around my lexan windows with the screws, I could put black tape around the border, then the screws would no longer be visible .

I know someone who did exactly that and the other racers in the class complained that fasteners were still visible because of the protrusions in the tape. The next week he bought some 1/8" thick foam rubber tape like is used to insulate around a house door so, nothing underneath it was visible. THAT was OK.
It is a total shame to make racers jump through these hoops just to satisfy a BS rule.