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New from South Carolina
Been lurking for a while. I figured I'd post up when I had my own car and my own project.
1986 Mustang Coupe, white, originally 4 cylinder and stick car.
I've got D1VE block, stock 3.85" stroke crank, stock rods, stock D3 heads, Hooker swap headers, Moroso Swap oil pan, and some other miscellaneous stuff...
Looking to put together a fun little street/strip car.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Don't mind spending money on the shortblock... New pistons (dual valve reliefs for standard and SCJ valve locations), re-sizing rods (w/good rod bolts), grind/polish crank, bore and torque plate hone the block, 0 deck, ARP fasteners throughout, KAASE oil pump, balancing, etc... You get the idea.
Heads??? Maybe just check the guides, good valve job, new seals??? I will probably step up to SCJ's or P-51's couple years down the road.
Intake??? Maybe a Torker II??? Going to run a nitrous plate - would prefer a single plane design...
Cam??? I have no idea... Maybe a hydraulic flat tappet??? Size???
Probably going to try and find a good C6 core and build a stout reverse manual valve body (no brake) tranny. Good 10" convertor from someone PTC, Cameron, etc...
Carb??? 850-1000 cfm 4150 style...
Anyway I will post some pics of what I'm starting with if anyone is interested - feel free to make suggestions!!!
Sammy
1986 Mustang Coupe, white, originally 4 cylinder and stick car.
I've got D1VE block, stock 3.85" stroke crank, stock rods, stock D3 heads, Hooker swap headers, Moroso Swap oil pan, and some other miscellaneous stuff...
Looking to put together a fun little street/strip car.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Don't mind spending money on the shortblock... New pistons (dual valve reliefs for standard and SCJ valve locations), re-sizing rods (w/good rod bolts), grind/polish crank, bore and torque plate hone the block, 0 deck, ARP fasteners throughout, KAASE oil pump, balancing, etc... You get the idea.
Heads??? Maybe just check the guides, good valve job, new seals??? I will probably step up to SCJ's or P-51's couple years down the road.
Intake??? Maybe a Torker II??? Going to run a nitrous plate - would prefer a single plane design...
Cam??? I have no idea... Maybe a hydraulic flat tappet??? Size???
Probably going to try and find a good C6 core and build a stout reverse manual valve body (no brake) tranny. Good 10" convertor from someone PTC, Cameron, etc...
Carb??? 850-1000 cfm 4150 style...
Anyway I will post some pics of what I'm starting with if anyone is interested - feel free to make suggestions!!!
Sammy
86Notch- Posts : 4
Join date : 2013-03-07
Location : Tablerock, SC
Re: New from South Carolina
welcome to the site Sammy , i move your topic to the engine tech , you will probably get some more feed back here ....now lets see some pics
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Re: New from South Carolina
vega with a BBF!460vega wrote:Welcome from another SC newby.
cool40- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
- Posts : 7313
Join date : 2009-08-31
Age : 53
Location : on the 1/8 mile dyno
Re: New from South Carolina
Welcome to the site! I don't know exactly what your goals are as far as ET, power, driveability. But from what you have suggested, I would think that a nice hydraulic flat tappet cam is in order. The old motorsport cam that came in 460 crate motors would be a decent start. It was .585 intake .614 exhaust. Those D3 heads I think will need to be modded for an adjustable valvetrain. Torker would be OK for now. If you are gonna go with SCJ or P51's you'll want more intake. Since you are saying "street / strip" I'd stay with a 4150 style carb. Drag only with the bigger heads and cam, 4500 for sure.
Good luck with your project!
TJ
Good luck with your project!
TJ
Tommyj466- Posts : 322
Join date : 2009-01-06
Location : Versailles Ky
Re: New from South Carolina
Welcome ...
The specific intake needs and camshaft needs will vary greatly with the kind of usage this project is intended to receive.
How the vehicle is rigged and how it will get used 80% of the time will usually determine those things.
The specific intake needs and camshaft needs will vary greatly with the kind of usage this project is intended to receive.
How the vehicle is rigged and how it will get used 80% of the time will usually determine those things.
Picture test...
Well after working on two of my buddies stock suspension BBF mustangs this weekend I think I've decided the direction I'm going in - I think - LOL!!!
Imagine this car a coupe and white in color...
Going to stick with the D1 block, stock 3.85" crank, stock rods... Go ahead and get some used SCJ's or save up and get P-51's. Keep the compression at a pump gas friendly number so I can drive it to the local burger joint and hang out with my buddies. Already have a glide, just need to come up with a bellhousing. Another twist that should make things interesting... Fuel injection!!! This will be a 85% of the time 1/8 mile stock suspension racer and then to the burger joint with my wife on Saturdays.
Anyway this is what I worked on this weekend - not mine - but thought you guys would like something BBF to look at!
One on the left 557" A-headed, one on the right 557" P-51 headed.
Flycutting the pistons on the A-headed motor.
Dash install of the P-51 headed S/S car.
The P-51 headed car used to have a crate 514 w/SCJ's, 2950 w/driver, 4150 carbed, 28 x 10.5's, 225 hit, and a glide... Went 5.60's... 6.15's on the motor w/93 octane!!! Owner kicks himself for selling that motor - hopefully he will be happy when we get the 557 in it!
Sammy
Imagine this car a coupe and white in color...
Going to stick with the D1 block, stock 3.85" crank, stock rods... Go ahead and get some used SCJ's or save up and get P-51's. Keep the compression at a pump gas friendly number so I can drive it to the local burger joint and hang out with my buddies. Already have a glide, just need to come up with a bellhousing. Another twist that should make things interesting... Fuel injection!!! This will be a 85% of the time 1/8 mile stock suspension racer and then to the burger joint with my wife on Saturdays.
Anyway this is what I worked on this weekend - not mine - but thought you guys would like something BBF to look at!
One on the left 557" A-headed, one on the right 557" P-51 headed.
Flycutting the pistons on the A-headed motor.
Dash install of the P-51 headed S/S car.
The P-51 headed car used to have a crate 514 w/SCJ's, 2950 w/driver, 4150 carbed, 28 x 10.5's, 225 hit, and a glide... Went 5.60's... 6.15's on the motor w/93 octane!!! Owner kicks himself for selling that motor - hopefully he will be happy when we get the 557 in it!
Sammy
Last edited by 86Notch on March 11th 2013, 8:58 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : I'm an idiot???)
86Notch- Posts : 4
Join date : 2013-03-07
Location : Tablerock, SC
Re: New from South Carolina
May I make a suggestion, ditch the factory rods! When I wanted to step up my old 466 that was the one major thing that kept me from doing it so replace them now and sleep better at night.
bigblok2000ranger- Posts : 1745
Join date : 2010-04-07
Age : 45
Location : Beloit,WI
Re: New from South Carolina
I've got some updates...
Sent the tranny to Neal Racing transmissions to be built (Powerglide w/brake, JW bellhousing), and picked up a set of DOVE heads.
So this is what I was thinking...
Just "re-building" the 460 I have now (reusing the block, pistons, rods, and crank).
Going to have the machine shop do a ball hone, new cam bearings, check the deck, and clean the block. Obviously, if the block has a significant ridge will go ahead and bore and hone and put some forged pistons in it.
Clean and polish the crank (grind if necessary).
Clean the piston and rods.
I was then thinking about this combo:
CompCams (CCA-34-343-4) .640/.640 (260/260 @.050") on a 110 (solid flat tappet)
Edelbrock Torker II intake
DOVE heads (mild port work)
950-1000 cfm carb. (decided to keep it simple)
NOS Big Shot kit
3:55-3.73 gears
2800-3200 stall
275 Drag radials or a 28/10.5 ET Drag
See anything that jumps out at you as a bad idea?
Any guesses what this thing will run on a 225-250???
Probably end up in the 2800-2900lb range.
Going to work on my two buddies stock suspension cars this weekend - I'll take some pics and post them up on Monday.
Sammy
Sent the tranny to Neal Racing transmissions to be built (Powerglide w/brake, JW bellhousing), and picked up a set of DOVE heads.
So this is what I was thinking...
Just "re-building" the 460 I have now (reusing the block, pistons, rods, and crank).
Going to have the machine shop do a ball hone, new cam bearings, check the deck, and clean the block. Obviously, if the block has a significant ridge will go ahead and bore and hone and put some forged pistons in it.
Clean and polish the crank (grind if necessary).
Clean the piston and rods.
I was then thinking about this combo:
CompCams (CCA-34-343-4) .640/.640 (260/260 @.050") on a 110 (solid flat tappet)
Edelbrock Torker II intake
DOVE heads (mild port work)
950-1000 cfm carb. (decided to keep it simple)
NOS Big Shot kit
3:55-3.73 gears
2800-3200 stall
275 Drag radials or a 28/10.5 ET Drag
See anything that jumps out at you as a bad idea?
Any guesses what this thing will run on a 225-250???
Probably end up in the 2800-2900lb range.
Going to work on my two buddies stock suspension cars this weekend - I'll take some pics and post them up on Monday.
Sammy
86Notch- Posts : 4
Join date : 2013-03-07
Location : Tablerock, SC
Re: New from South Carolina
Stock rods,stock pistons and a 225-250 shot.....
mudtrucker- Posts : 160
Join date : 2009-11-18
Location : Lancaster,Ohio
Re: New from South Carolina
mudtrucker wrote:Stock rods,stock pistons and a 225-250 shot.....
LOL!!!
Wondering if someone would notice that!!!
Maybe I'll start a little lower... How's 150 sound?!?!?!
Sammy
86Notch- Posts : 4
Join date : 2013-03-07
Location : Tablerock, SC
Re: New from South Carolina
Stock rods....not the best idea. We've all done it. If you just want a cheep low rpm motor they will work for a while.
Bill Heard- Posts : 115
Join date : 2011-04-10
Age : 79
Location : Portland Oregon
Re: New from South Carolina
Im closes Don's racecars at the state line u guys know Donald?
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Age : 45
Location : Cerro Gordo n.c
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