How do I do this or how would you do this
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How do I do this or how would you do this
I want to run mid 11's on pump gas(91) in 7000 ft air(with slicks). Car weighs 3800# with driver. Has to be one 4v(holley 4150) carb auto trans and 3.25 gears. This is a car that will be driven on the street and the highway. No power adders. Now I figure a large cubic inch engine can do this. Tons of parts out there. Ive had an 11 and 12 sec SBF cars. But I want a nice driver with fun big block power. Will a stock block and a 4.3 stroke be enuff or would I need more? Can you build a 600 hp 528 ci with 10.5-1 a hyd flat tappet cam? I want this to be a simple and as low maintenance as possible....6000 rpm limit. Im a dreaming here?
Tim
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qtrhors1- Posts : 14
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Are you sure you don't want to pull an RV with it, too?
Seriously, with all those restrictions in 7000 ft. of air, I think your biggest hurdle (and you have a bunch of 'em) will be in getting enough air through that thing. I'd use big cubes and a big carb for starters. How rigid are all these requirements?
Seriously, with all those restrictions in 7000 ft. of air, I think your biggest hurdle (and you have a bunch of 'em) will be in getting enough air through that thing. I'd use big cubes and a big carb for starters. How rigid are all these requirements?
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i think with the right parts its possible. Not a budget build though. I think you'll need at least a 557, and a good set of heads. P51 at least. A hydraulic roller would be my recommendation. You would aso need a dish piston to run pump gas. you most likely get better octane than we do here in colorado.
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powerstrokeace- Posts : 1496
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I have a motorhome already so it wont need to pull an RV I know this is abit off the wall but I figure its a challenge like all the other combos we try. I dont want a race car.
I hoping for at least high 11's. Our local track is at 4000 ft and the the air is 5000-7000 ft on average. 91 octane is all we have. Thanks for the responses guys.
I hoping for at least high 11's. Our local track is at 4000 ft and the the air is 5000-7000 ft on average. 91 octane is all we have. Thanks for the responses guys.
qtrhors1- Posts : 14
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Re: How do I do this or how would you do this
Check out the build Oakley and myself did for EMC this year.
https://www.429-460.com/t18981-2013-emc-oakley-freelander-572-build#222010
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Maybe a 4.5" stroke, overbore to a minimum, camshaft that offers your expectations within your application and cylinder heads with reasonable size valves to promote good low speed performance that will support 600 hp to 700 hp, compression ratio near 9:1 (iron) or 10:1 (aluminum), carburetor in the 850 cfm range and I think you will be at your destination. 545 cubic inch at 1.1 hp/ci will arrive at your goal although I believe 1.25 hp/ci to 1.4 hp/ci is an achievable goal without enormous effort. Most of all be honest with yourself in regard to the build, you will benefit!
Dave.
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Believe 1.25Hp is achievable but that's on a Dyno... But to but that to use is another thing... have seen lots of big HP not run the MPH calculation and be DOWN on power... High 11s should be very doableLivermoreDave wrote:Maybe a 4.5" stroke, overbore to a minimum, camshaft that offers your expectations within your application and cylinder heads with reasonable size valves to promote good low speed performance that will support 600 hp to 700 hp, compression ratio near 9:1 (iron) or 10:1 (aluminum), carburetor in the 850 cfm range and I think you will be at your destination. 545 cubic inch at 1.1 hp/ci will arrive at your goal although I believe 1.25 hp/ci to 1.4 hp/ci is an achievable goal without enormous effort. Most of all be honest with yourself in regard to the build, you will benefit!
Dave.
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Quick if you will, please do not include your reply as part of my post. Thank you, Dave.quick 52 wrote:LivermoreDave wrote:Maybe a 4.5" stroke, overbore to a minimum, camshaft that offers your expectations within your application and cylinder heads with reasonable size valves to promote good low speed performance that will support 600 hp to 700 hp, compression ratio near 9:1 (iron) or 10:1 (aluminum), carburetor in the 850 cfm range and I think you will be at your destination. 545 cubic inch at 1.1 hp/ci will arrive at your goal although I believe 1.25 hp/ci to 1.4 hp/ci is an achievable goal without enormous effort. Most of all be honest with yourself in regard to the build, you will benefit! Believe 1.25Hp is achievable but that's on a Dyno... But to but that to use is another thing... have seen lots of big HP not run the MPH calculation and be DOWN on power... High 11s should be very doable
Dave.
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Thanks, your so kind! ... ...bruno wrote:fixed Mr. Dave
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Not sure how that happen but will try to not quote on your post
quick 52- Posts : 612
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The Dyno I have used and I hope Dave doesn't mind me saying this the same dyno he uses will show you the power that the car will run at the track.quick 52 wrote:Believe 1.25Hp is achievable but that's on a Dyno... But to but that to use is another thing... have seen lots of big HP not run the MPH calculation and be DOWN on power... High 11s should be very doableLivermoreDave wrote:Maybe a 4.5" stroke, overbore to a minimum, camshaft that offers your expectations within your application and cylinder heads with reasonable size valves to promote good low speed performance that will support 600 hp to 700 hp, compression ratio near 9:1 (iron) or 10:1 (aluminum), carburetor in the 850 cfm range and I think you will be at your destination. 545 cubic inch at 1.1 hp/ci will arrive at your goal although I believe 1.25 hp/ci to 1.4 hp/ci is an achievable goal without enormous effort. Most of all be honest with yourself in regard to the build, you will benefit!
Dave.
With that being said, you can take the same engine and install it in two different cars with different people tuning the chassis and have a good ET on one and miserable results with the other.
I agree wholeheartedly with Livermore Dave
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When a person of your kindness and knowledge speaks that has accomplished the performance level you exhibit with that beautiful Mustang ....... I'm listening and doing so with privilege! ... ...IDT-572 wrote: I hope Dave doesn't mind me saying
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LivermoreDave wrote:When a person of your kindness and knowledge speaks that has accomplished the performance level you exhibit with that beautiful Mustang ....... I'm listening and doing so with privilege! ... ...IDT-572 wrote: I hope Dave doesn't mind me saying
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