Front timing cover R&R ?
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Gregaust
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Front timing cover R&R ?
I need to remove and replace the front timing cover . What is the best way to remove and put the hatchet weight back on when im done? I figure i can use a gear puller to remove it but i dont wanna pound it back on. Im putting a new water pump on and when i removed it now i notice some coolant seeping from between the timing cover. I know if i dont remove the timing cover and change the gasket its gonna bit me in the ass and ill be doing the job again!
Thanks in advance ,
Bob
Thanks in advance ,
Bob
mustang68mustangs1- Posts : 169
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Re: Front timing cover R&R ?
You need a puller for the balancer. Hatchet weight should just slide off. Will need to drop the sump down. When refitting the cover leave it loose, use the spacer to align the cover central with the front seal.
Get a hold of a balancer installer to refit. Don't use the bolt to pull it on ,can damage threads in the crank
Get a hold of a balancer installer to refit. Don't use the bolt to pull it on ,can damage threads in the crank
Gregaust- Posts : 626
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Re: Front timing cover R&R ?
Once you pull the balancer the hatch weight will slide off. It isn't pressed on. Just need to remove the key for the balancer.
514Fox87- Posts : 436
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Re: Front timing cover R&R ?
If it doesn't just slide off,hone it slightly when reinstalling and add a little anti and you will be happy.
bbf-falcon- Posts : 8995
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Re: Front timing cover R&R ?
Ok, i appreciate the help, i got the balancer off. The hatchet weight will slide off but how does the keyway for the balancer come off? I tried tapping it rearward lightly with a brass hammer but it aint budging. I dont have alot of room between the rad and the snout. Do i have to drop the sump to get the cover off? I hope not because i will have to take my headers off! A simple waterpump and intake job is sure snowballing!
Bob
Bob
mustang68mustangs1- Posts : 169
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Re: Front timing cover R&R ?
They can sometimes be contankerious,might spray it w/some blaster and let it soak for a bit.Might have to use some heat.
bbf-falcon- Posts : 8995
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Re: Front timing cover R&R ?
Ok, got that stubborn keyway out of the way! I cleaned all the surfaces up and im gonna polish the timing cover up a bit. Intake and waterneck are going out for Nitroplate. Got some time before the weather breaks so im gonna shine this bitch up and detail a bunch of stuff. I cant wait to get this all back together. Thanks for the help!
Bob
Bob
mustang68mustangs1- Posts : 169
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Re: Front timing cover R&R ?
You will need to drop the sump as I mentioned to get the timing cover refitted properly. There is no other way to ensure the seal is central
Gregaust- Posts : 626
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Re: Front timing cover R&R ?
Greg i honestly cant see a need to drop the sump. The cover came off so easily with lots of room to spare. It seems like there will be no problem reinstalling it.
Bob
Bob
mustang68mustangs1- Posts : 169
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Re: Front timing cover R&R ?
mustang68mustangs1 wrote:Greg i honestly cant see a need to drop the sump. The cover came off so easily with lots of room to spare. It seems like there will be no problem reinstalling it.
Bob
If I may,
What I think Gregaust is trying to explain is that when you re-install the front timing cover with the oil sump/pan left in place, sometimes the new gaskets and the new timing cover/oil pan's rubber seal pushes upward on the timing cover and not allowing the crankshaft seal that is installed in the timing cover to be centered on the crankshaft/crankshaft spacer. If this happens the harmonic balancer spacer will be too tight going back in, smash the bottom lip of the crankshaft seal and possibly leave a gap between the seal's lip and spacer at the upper most portion(both conditions will cause a pretty good leak). Basically you need to make sure the timing cover's crankshaft seal is centered on the crankshaft before fully torqueing down bolts, sometimes that involves loosening the pan to ensure that the seal lasts and doesn't leak, sometimes you can just re-install cover and it is centered perfectly(just not with my luck ). At least I hope this is what Gregaust was trying to convey in his previous post(in not so many words of course). Good luck. Todd
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Re: Front timing cover R&R ?
That makes sense now. I hope i dont have to take the sump loose cause i know it will tear the gasket and ill have to take these multipiece puzzle headers off to replace the gasket.
Bob
Bob
mustang68mustangs1- Posts : 169
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Re: Front timing cover R&R ?
mustang68mustangs1 wrote:That makes sense now. I hope i dont have to take the sump loose cause i know it will tear the gasket and ill have to take these multipiece puzzle headers off to replace the gasket.
Bob
You don't need much, 1/8" maybe. Just loosen all the bolts (the front a little more than the back) and drop the front a smidge. I have never been able to change a timing cover without lowering the pan but that is just my experience. You can push the timing cover back without loosening the pan but the holes won't line up as it will be too high plus what was mentioned in the previous post. Just get a long extension and some universal joints to get to those hard to reach bolts.
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