need help to id few componets
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capncruncher1965
simon455
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need help to id few componets
started taking apart my dad apparent 429 out of his 72 gran torino project that he purchased few years ago from someone that had no knowledge of this car.
from outside motor appeared like someone put few bucks into it (studded heads, fluid dampener, crane gold roller rockers, billet msd distributor, offy port o sonic intake 850 holley, arp bolts everywhere) took it apart, found out by the crank numbers that's its a 460. Block is d1ve-6015-a2, stock crank, stock rods, cast dished pistons. heads and intake appear to have some port work done, bigger valves as well. Cam is a hydraulic tappet also unknown. So I took few pictures of this stuff hoping that someone here could help out to id this stuff if possible because casting numbers seem to be grounded off.
from outside motor appeared like someone put few bucks into it (studded heads, fluid dampener, crane gold roller rockers, billet msd distributor, offy port o sonic intake 850 holley, arp bolts everywhere) took it apart, found out by the crank numbers that's its a 460. Block is d1ve-6015-a2, stock crank, stock rods, cast dished pistons. heads and intake appear to have some port work done, bigger valves as well. Cam is a hydraulic tappet also unknown. So I took few pictures of this stuff hoping that someone here could help out to id this stuff if possible because casting numbers seem to be grounded off.
simon455- Posts : 15
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Re: need help to id few componets
here is a link to the pictures as it didn't post for some reason
http://public.fotki.com/simonsq/bbf/
thanks!
http://public.fotki.com/simonsq/bbf/
thanks!
simon455- Posts : 15
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HEADS
SOMEONE has done some head work to your motor to . are they dove heads?
capncruncher1965- Posts : 131
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Re: need help to id few componets
Not much help, block is early version (D1AE-A2) and cylinder head casting date appears to be April 18, 1969. Is the top valve stem damaged in picture 6 (I think)?
Dave.
Dave.
LivermoreDave- Posts : 972
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Re: need help to id few componets
cant tell as the casting numbers are not evident anywhere on these headscapncruncher1965 wrote:SOMEONE has done some head work to your motor to . are they dove heads?
simon455- Posts : 15
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Re: need help to id few componets
LivermoreDave wrote:Not much help, block is early version (D1AE-A2) and cylinder head casting date appears to be April 18, 1969. Is the top valve stem damaged in picture 6 (I think)?
Dave.
Its just in the picture I guess, valves look fine, any idea what combustion chamber that may be, trying to determine what compression this motor was and if decide to carry on with a rebuild, what pistons to get for pump gas street motor. Current pistons are 0.30 over identical to these: http://public.fotki.com/simonsq/bbf/piston.html
also the cam numbers, do they appear as a stock camshaft?
simon455- Posts : 15
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Re: need help to id few componets
so I'm guessing someone ground the casting # off the heads? Looking down on the head, they will be outside the valve cover rail and above the exhaust ports.
460bronco- Posts : 364
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Re: need help to id few componets
Yes, they are not there, most likely grounded off, nothing at the bottom of the intake side either. When we were buying this car, guy was mentioning "cobra jet engine"
I knew prior there was no 429 cobra jet in 72 Torino, but whatever he was saying didn't really matter, shell was in decent shape and nice candidate for a pro touring style street build. Now I see that it has the D00E A rods with arp bolts, apparently scj rods. I need to find out about all this stuff to see if I should reuse some of this or maybe all,
I think that the Torino needs a nice healthy hydraulic 500-525hp motor to boot around with some decent highway/street rear gear among with bigger brakes and wheels
I knew prior there was no 429 cobra jet in 72 Torino, but whatever he was saying didn't really matter, shell was in decent shape and nice candidate for a pro touring style street build. Now I see that it has the D00E A rods with arp bolts, apparently scj rods. I need to find out about all this stuff to see if I should reuse some of this or maybe all,
I think that the Torino needs a nice healthy hydraulic 500-525hp motor to boot around with some decent highway/street rear gear among with bigger brakes and wheels
simon455- Posts : 15
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Re: need help to id few componets
D20E Police Interceptor heads? I can't tell just a guess. The intake ports look pretty lage in the pictures. Was it the original engine? On the cam, measure the with, and height of the lobes, subtract the two, and mulitpy by 1.73 to get an idea of the lift. Check lifters and find out if they are hyd. or mechanical? Pistons have a large dish it appears, and the compression should not be too high, assumming not much milling has been done to heads or block?
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supervel45- Posts : 4499
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Re: need help to id few componets
Engine is not from the car, vin states it's a 6 cyl, although I don't think there was a 6cyl fastback. Cam is hydraulic with new looking valve springs. The ports and the heads and intake match the gaskets, definetly work was done there, I will do the cam measurements
simon455- Posts : 15
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Re: need help to id few componets
112256= 112LS 256 Duration adv.? Isky 256RV Cam maybe? Isky made three RV cams for 429-460 engines, and they where around 480-500lift. I can pull the specs after you measure the lobes. http://www.iskycams.com/pdfcatalog/2004-05/page148.pdf 256 Super Cam?
supervel45- Posts : 4499
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http://www.iskycams.com/pdfcatalog/2004-05/page148.pdf This link.
supervel45- Posts : 4499
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Re: need help to id few componets
It is roughly .501 lift on the int lobe
simon455- Posts : 15
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Date codes on the heads are 9c27 and 9d18
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Re: need help to id few componets
pics are hard to tell about but the intake port looks almost like a CJ port.does the valve cover bolt go into the intake runner?
cool40- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: need help to id few componets
Yes! It has a hole on both heads only in front intake port, here is a picture of it:
http://public.fotki.com/simonsq/bbf/img-2809.html
http://public.fotki.com/simonsq/bbf/img-2809.html
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Re: need help to id few componets
better pics of the intake runner would help.
cool40- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: need help to id few componets
The Isky 256 Super Cam is listed at .492" lift with a 1.75 rocker ratio. This is the way only Isky rates lift as for as I know, and most other cam companies use 1.73 rockers. Read the Isky fine print. So .501" is a tad high. Did you get a good accurate reading? I would look for something at least in the 270 degree range with those heads for any kind of RPM, but you still won't crack 500 HP. Looks like a nice engine, you have.simon455 wrote:It is roughly .501 lift on the int lobe
Last edited by supervel45 on February 18th 2014, 12:07 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Mistake on Isky rocker ratio said 1.7, Isky lists 1.75 instead of 1.73 as is Ford standard)
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