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Post  69F100 June 18th 2014, 11:43 am

It been a while that I needed to adjust my shocks with the new combo it is hit the shocks hard. I tighten my springs up another 1/4'' to start with to help keep the shock from bottoming out might have to change springs later I have 12'' 125s now they might not me heavy enough. When I scaled the truck when I built it that is what the guy at RJ Race Cars told me it needed. On the shock if my memory it right I think I have to turn counter clockwise to tighten the rebound up? They work good in the middle with the old combo but on the new combo I can feel the shocks bottoming out and then the tires start braking loose. Heading to the track on the 27th for some more TNT to see if I can get a good full pass with out braking loose off the starting line. Just wondering if I am heading in the right direction with my adjustments to help save some time at the track. I am going to get my gopro set up to see what is going on with the rear suspension this time to make sure what I am feeling is in the shocks.
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Post  whatbumper June 18th 2014, 1:21 pm

Get that camera footage. I can hardly believe the shock is bottoming out. You probably are out of shock though as those seem to fade pretty quickly.

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Post  69F100 June 19th 2014, 12:04 am

I think I found my bottoming out I never removed the factory rubber bumpers from the frame on each side looks like the rear end was hitting them. I didnt have but about 1 3\4" of travel the shocks has 2 3\4 " travel so just maybe that what I felt on the lanch. I am still going to get a vid of the rear end just incase this was not it.
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Post  whatbumper June 19th 2014, 12:46 am

The cars that we do separate or are neutral. They don't squat at all. That's why I was questioning that.

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Post  69F100 June 19th 2014, 1:19 am

I had the springs loosen up more than they should have been, I loosen them up on the 460 combo it helped my 60' time but off foot brake it wasn't hitting the tires  hard. Now that I got the 552 combo with the glide and trans brake in it, it is like a whole different truck now. I went back tonight and tighten the springs to where it sets on the ground the spring is compressed to 9 1/2'' and the rear is tight again and the shocks is set about middle of the travel distance and the setting on the shock is in the middle.
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Post  DILLIGASDAVE June 19th 2014, 2:13 am

If the rear suspension it's self is really squatting a ton at the launch (on either the initial hit, or the recovery period after the initial hit) it's possible you could have a number of problems. The extension valving could be too tight, the compression valving could be too loose, too soft a spring, Instant center way too long and/or way too low and/or having a real steep downhill angle on the bottom 4-link bars, not having enough power on tap for how the rear suspension is setup.

It should also be mentioned that seeing X amount of rear "bumper drop" during the launch doesn't always mean that the rear suspension is actually squating during the launch. The nose lifting & the sidewalls wadding-up during the launch can also make the back of the car "drop".

As mentioned posting some current launch video would be a good idea. And posting a current 4-link map showing I/C placement & bar angles is also something to think about.
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Post  69F100 June 25th 2014, 11:54 am

Dave and Justin planning on going to the track Friday night I got a camera mount under the truck for my Gopro I will get some vids of it and post this weekend, as long as the rain leaves here or atleast for Friday night. I got it pointed so it shows the shocks and tire on the driver's side couldn't get it to wear I could get a shot at both tires but do have it so both shocks are seen.
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Post  bigblockfox468 June 25th 2014, 6:56 pm

Counterclockwise to soften (loosen) it............Clockwise to firm (tighten) it.
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Post  69F100 June 25th 2014, 7:12 pm

Ok thanks i put them back in the middle after i readjusted my springs and will adjust if need after a pass or 2
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Post  69F100 June 28th 2014, 5:41 pm

only one vid this time it not bottoming out now go to 4mins and that starts the run my camera bracket came off when I tried to get it to release and slide out the VHB tape came loose


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbqaKkDkSRs
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Post  DILLIGASDAVE June 29th 2014, 5:04 am

Looks to me like it might have had about 1" to 1.25" of extension/separation at the initial hit and pretty much dead-hooked (or close to it). Then after the initial hit it bounced on the shocks or sidewalls a few times, (and kept on extending/separating a little more with each bounce) during the recovery period. Hard to tell from the video, but the total extension/separation distance might have finally reached the 2" to 2.5" range (wild guess) before it leveled out and started to re-compress the shocks a little.
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Post  69F100 June 29th 2014, 1:57 pm

DILLIGASDAVE wrote:Looks to me like it might have had about 1" to 1.25" of extension/separation at the initial hit and pretty much dead-hooked (or close to it). Then after the initial hit it bounced on the shocks or sidewalls a few times, (and kept on extending/separating a little more with each bounce) during the recovery period. Hard to tell from the video, but the total extension/separation distance might have finally reached the 2" to 2.5" range (wild guess) before it leveled out and started to re-compress the shocks a little.  

Dave that pass my gas paddle got hung on my trans tunnel and only had carb opened about half way or a little more when I finally noticed it I was at the 1/8 put it to the floor then just got out of it. You can hear right at the end before I let out the Rs come up then I let out. On the 2nd pass it hooked and broke loose and rehooked off the line with a 1.64 60', then after looking at the 1st pass again I dropped the air to 8.5 from 10.5 to see if it would help and it did with just a little spin off the line with a 1.39 60'. Next time out I will get another shot of the rear I fixed the mount for my camera with a screw so it wont come off. I think I got it close now but another shot of the rear work will let us know.
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