Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
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Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
After seeing a thread on 460Ford, ( http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=182953 ) I decided to add a baffle to my stock truck pan. I have never had a problem with losing oil pressure at launch or in the shut down area, but I figured it would be nice to keep the oil from climbing up the back of the pan at launch.
I started on mine yesterday. I cut a piece of cardboard that fit snugly in the pan. Then I put the oil pump and pickup on the motor. I dobbed oil on the bottom of the pickup and lowered the pan over the block. This left an oil circle on the cardboard.
I cut out the circle, then repeated the process by dobbing oil on the pickup tube until I had the appropriate notch made in the baffle.
Today or tomorrow, I will buy a small piece of sheetmetal, cut out the hole and weld it in the pan. I will detail that process in a later post.
I started on mine yesterday. I cut a piece of cardboard that fit snugly in the pan. Then I put the oil pump and pickup on the motor. I dobbed oil on the bottom of the pickup and lowered the pan over the block. This left an oil circle on the cardboard.
I cut out the circle, then repeated the process by dobbing oil on the pickup tube until I had the appropriate notch made in the baffle.
Today or tomorrow, I will buy a small piece of sheetmetal, cut out the hole and weld it in the pan. I will detail that process in a later post.
BigBlockRanger- Posts : 1267
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Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
I will be watching I need to add one to my pan also I haven't lost oil pressure on launch or shut down ether but will be good for added insurance. Now I have the front end changed over to strut I can drop my pan with out pulling the engine was going to buy a new pan but might just do what you are doing instead.
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Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
Extend the sides an bend the up. Drill holes in the flaps an plug weld the to the pan.
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Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
I was actually going to check around to see if any of my friends have a spot welder, but the plug weld option might be just as good.
BigBlockRanger- Posts : 1267
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Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
raise it as high as possible, Cant have crank hitting it, then trap door with small spring, the front to back drain. Let the oil flow in, but don't let it slosh forward out. With a solid sheet as pictured, might run into issue with oil having hard time returning to sump.
kim- Posts : 700
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Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
BigBlockRanger wrote:I was actually going to check around to see if any of my friends have a spot welder, but the plug weld option might be just as good.
You should really tig weld it. To much heat and you'll have cracks everywhere.
Curt- Posts : 2791
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Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
I am following Randy's advice as to how it is constructed.
The baffle should be curved slightly from front to rear with the low spot near the center at the pick-up access hole.
Stitch weld the baffle in the front and the back with the gap from the baffle to the pan no MORE than .040". The sides can be about .125" gap.
BigBlockRanger- Posts : 1267
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Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
BigBlockRanger wrote:After seeing a thread on 460Ford, ( http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=182953 ) I decided to add a baffle to my stock truck pan. I have never had a problem with losing oil pressure at launch or in the shut down area, but I figured it would be nice to keep the oil from climbing up the back of the pan at launch.
I started on mine yesterday. I cut a piece of cardboard that fit snugly in the pan. Then I put the oil pump and pickup on the motor. I dobbed oil on the bottom of the pickup and lowered the pan over the block. This left an oil circle on the cardboard.
I cut out the circle, then repeated the process by dobbing oil on the pickup tube until I had the appropriate notch made in the baffle.
Today or tomorrow, I will buy a small piece of sheetmetal, cut out the hole and weld it in the pan. I will detail that process in a later post.
For THAT pan ... that flat baffle will work fine. Simply stitch weld it in a few places.
Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
I done my pan as well and it turned out fine, I used a body panel mig welder on med heat and its good,
butterbean- Posts : 676
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Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
Worked on the baffle a little at lunch yesterday.
I decided to bend the sides up to make it easier to weld. I have since changed my mind and will only have some tabs on the sides to weld to.
So far.
I have plenty of metal to make a version 2.0 should I really jack this one up.
I didn't have a lot of time to fiddle today, but I did have a chance to fill the pan with water to see where the oil level is.
The setup.
3 quarts
4 quarts - this is the level I was most interested in. I figure this would likely be similar to the nominal level when the engine is running.
5 quarts
6 quarts
It's a lot closer to the dipstick tube than I imagined.
Even though the baffle will be submerged, I still think I will make it slope a bit towards the hole.
I decided to bend the sides up to make it easier to weld. I have since changed my mind and will only have some tabs on the sides to weld to.
So far.
I have plenty of metal to make a version 2.0 should I really jack this one up.
I didn't have a lot of time to fiddle today, but I did have a chance to fill the pan with water to see where the oil level is.
The setup.
3 quarts
4 quarts - this is the level I was most interested in. I figure this would likely be similar to the nominal level when the engine is running.
5 quarts
6 quarts
It's a lot closer to the dipstick tube than I imagined.
Even though the baffle will be submerged, I still think I will make it slope a bit towards the hole.
BigBlockRanger- Posts : 1267
Join date : 2008-12-02
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Location : Amarillo
Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
I had a little time last night to work on this.
I cut out the hole, flanged it and added a bend near the centerline of the hole to make it match the contour of the pan better. The notch for the pickup tube looks a little wonky, but I don't care. I just need to test fit it again and if it is ok, weld it in.
I cut out the hole, flanged it and added a bend near the centerline of the hole to make it match the contour of the pan better. The notch for the pickup tube looks a little wonky, but I don't care. I just need to test fit it again and if it is ok, weld it in.
BigBlockRanger- Posts : 1267
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Location : Amarillo
Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
James personally I would just build a windage tray and make it fit with the pan it is more important than a pan baffle it will also keep the crank from pickup the oil if it is above the baffle...
the Coug- Posts : 3055
Join date : 2008-12-02
Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
I shoulda took some pics of the pan I got from Lem for this 580, pretty cheap, clears a kasse pump, baffled and a built in windage tray and scraper, powdercoated inside and out, will clear main caps on a A460 block ..... no brainer imo.
richter69- Posts : 13649
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Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
the bigger ID pickup tube is a plus also. Tube needed a little tweak but nothing major.
richter69- Posts : 13649
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Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
richter69 wrote:I shoulda took some pics of the pan I got from Lem for this 580, pretty cheap, clears a kasse pump, baffled and a built in windage tray and scraper, powdercoated inside and out, will clear main caps on a A460 block ..... no brainer imo.
Re: Adding a baffle to a FRPP swap fox (truck) oil pan.
Nice piece, how much?
Mike R- Posts : 1381
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