scj = p51

Kaase scj are the same as p51 ??? Have I missed something in the last couple of years

come on 31 views ... no one is gonna bite ????

bruno wrote:Kaase scj are the same as p51 ??? Have I missed something in the last couple of years

Where did you ever get that idea... ?

That is similar to saying that a D0VE and D0OE are the same, just because they have the same valve positioning.

I thought the P-51 was like a cast ported version of the SCJ?

P51 = bigger intake port and valve.....the exh. side is ~ the same as the scj.

P51 are set up for + .100" valves.

I was going start a new thread to ask this, but this one seems like a good place. Say, for instance, I switch to P-51 heads from my current A429 Cobra Jets, can I use the same headers??

514F-1 wrote:I was going start a new thread to ask this, but this one seems like a good place.  Say, for instance, I switch to P-51 heads from my current A429 Cobra Jets, can I use the same headers??

Same headers...? YES.

Same intake, Yes..... Need different valve reliefs in most pistons, can get away in some instances with dished pistons with small cams.

Another question regarding the p-51s

why won't the stud girdles for the p-51s fit the frpp scj heads

[quote="gmsmkr"]Another question regarding the p-51s

why won't the stud girdles for the p-51s fit the frpp scj heads[/quote

Intake stud angle.

Lem Evans wrote:

gmsmkr wrote:Another question regarding the p-51s

why won't the stud girdles for the p-51s fit the frpp scj heads[/quote

Intake stud angle.

Cool thanks I just saw different part numbers and wasn't sure why

rmcomprandy wrote:

bruno wrote:Kaase scj are the same as p51 ??? Have I missed something in the last couple of years

Where did you ever get that idea... ?

That is similar to saying that a D0VE and D0OE are the same, just because they have the same valve positioning.

I was being sarcastic. Another car i was looking at buying has Kaase SCJ , but the owner said they are the same as P-51 ..... These folks that are selling these cars are silly. everyone one has all these excuses on why the car runs what it runs...blah blah blah

and of course theses full bodied cars weight in at 2700lbs must be some of Tony's scales

bruno wrote:and of course theses full bodied cars weight in at 2700lbs must be some of Tony's scales

A big block fox body weighing 2700lbs is easy.

rmcomprandy wrote:

514F-1 wrote:I was going start a new thread to ask this, but this one seems like a good place.  Say, for instance, I switch to P-51 heads from my current A429 Cobra Jets, can I use the same headers??

Same headers...?  YES.

Thanks, thought so..

whatbumper wrote:

bruno wrote:and of course theses full bodied cars weight in at 2700lbs must be some of Tony's scales

A big block fox body weighing 2700lbs is easy.

all factory , plus accessories and a 10 pt moly cage ??? my car was gutted and it was still over 3k

All factory, no. Stripped down with fiberglass hood, front bumper. Race car stuff. Very easy.

whatbumper wrote:

bruno wrote:and of course theses full bodied cars weight in at 2700lbs must be some of Tony's scales

A big block fox body weighing 2700lbs is easy.

Not with any of our fat asses in the car......

My old car with a A460 Block and top end was 3086 with me in it. But it is a t-top car too and all mild steel cage.

Weight is a state of mind. Lol

I weigh around 280 fully suited up and one of my customers weighs 375 suited up so we are used to figuring big drivers. We have a gold X275 style car on our team that weighs 3220 with the 375 driver and the only thing glass is the hood and deck lid because it was cheaper to buy a glass one than steel after a wreck here.

My car, that's a different story, it weighs 2750 with me and ballast to make that weight. Small block turbo motor on gas. It has a "little" more work than most.

whatbumper wrote:Weight is a state of mind. Lol

I weigh around 280 fully suited up and one of my customers weighs 375 suited up so we are used to figuring big drivers.  We have a gold X275 style car on our team that weighs 3220 with the 375 driver and the only thing glass is the hood and deck lid because it was cheaper to buy a glass one than steel after a wreck here.

My car, that's a different story, it weighs 2750 with me and ballast to make that weight.  Small block turbo motor on gas.  It has a "little" more work than most.

I just don't understand why folks have to falsify info about there race cars. That was my point about this whole thread. Maybe I just know to much. Maybe I'm just being to picky !!! Rewind about 7 years ago if I knew what I know now I would have never purchased the last race car.

bruno wrote:
I just don't understand why folks have to falsify info about there race cars. That was my point about this whole thread. Maybe I just know to much. Maybe I'm just being to picky !!! Rewind about 7 years ago if I knew what I know now I would have never purchased the last race car.

Stereotypical salesman mentality (easy now) some people are just full of Sh!t and when you potentially put cash in front of them they erupt. If I had to guess I would have guessed you would buy a roller with a current cert, and approached the engine as a separate deal, deducting the relevant number of dollars for every time you want to lie to me or think I am stupid. JMO

FalconEh wrote:

bruno wrote:
I just don't understand why folks have to falsify info about there race cars. That was my point about this whole thread. Maybe I just know to much. Maybe I'm just being to picky !!! Rewind about 7 years ago if I knew what I know now I would have never purchased the last race car.

Stereotypical salesman mentality (easy now) some people are just full of Sh!t and when you potentially put cash in front of them they erupt. If I had to guess I would have guessed you would buy a roller with a current cert, and approached the engine as a separate deal, deducting the relevant number of dollars for every time you want to lie to me or think I am stupid. JMO

'88 Ranger, only 'glass hood and bumpers. Steel bed, fenders, doors, cab. BBF, Ultraglide, tubular K & A-arms. Iron 9", drum rear brakes.

2480 lbs. with 2 batteries, no driver. 2700 lbs. buckled in.

maverick wrote: '88 Ranger, only 'glass hood and bumpers.  Steel bed, fenders, doors, cab.  BBF, Ultraglide, tubular K & A-arms.  Iron 9", drum rear brakes.

2480 lbs. with 2 batteries, no driver.      2700 lbs. buckled in.

the old rangers was a lot lighter than the newer ones wish my 2000 would have been as light as the 88 I had

I saw a car locally for sale with a "cage good to 6.50's" in it according to the owner.  Had no x in the door and no funny car cage.  A guy bought it and brought it to us because the cage wouldn't even go 8.50 cert.  best thing to do was to cut it all out and start over.  Really broke his heart.  He called me a liar and went to another shop.  The new shop is a fine individual.  He agrees that we were just trying to upsell the cage deal and says " I'll fix it no problem".  $3500 later it still won't pass but hey I'm still the liar here. Lol