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Post  68formalGT August 28th 2015, 3:22 pm

https://2img.net/h/oi45.tinypic.com/316p6yp.jpg

I found this picture on another sight and was wondering if the single carb tunnel ram for the A-heads would make more power then the single cast intake on a 598?
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Post  dfree383 August 28th 2015, 3:41 pm

Yes, it will make a little more.
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Post  rmcomprandy August 28th 2015, 6:15 pm

68formalGT wrote:https://2img.net/h/oi45.tinypic.com/316p6yp.jpg

I found this picture on another sight and was wondering if the single carb tunnel ram for the A-heads would make more power then the single cast intake on a 598?

What you linked is not a tunnel ram but, a highly modified single 4 barrel manifold.  
With ONE 4 barrel, that modified manifold in the link will make more torque, horsepower and RPM.

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Post  68formalGT August 28th 2015, 6:25 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:
68formalGT wrote:https://2img.net/h/oi45.tinypic.com/316p6yp.jpg

I found this picture on another sight and was wondering if the single carb tunnel ram for the A-heads would make more power then the single cast intake on a 598?

What you linked is not a tunnel ram but, a highly modified single 4 barrel manifold.  
With ONE 4 barrel, that modified manifold in the link will make more torque, horsepower and RPM.

Ok, I thought the runners kinda looked the same as tunnel ram. Any idea on who made it?
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Post  Lem Evans August 28th 2015, 8:45 pm

Look at the valve covers....BES.

http://www.besracing.com/

What I'd like to know is what did it cost Smile


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Post  68formalGT August 28th 2015, 9:07 pm

Lem Evans wrote:Look at the valve covers....BES.

http://www.besracing.com/

What I's like to know is what did it cost Smile

I emailed them and Gabe Labiosa but I'm sure I won't hear anything till at least Monday.
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Post  68formalGT August 28th 2015, 9:08 pm

Where I saw it.



http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=961050
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Post  cool40 August 28th 2015, 9:09 pm

Lem Evans wrote:Look at the valve covers....BES.

http://www.besracing.com/

What I's like to know is what did it cost Smile
and how much more power it made. Suspect
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Post  QtrWarrior August 28th 2015, 10:20 pm

Didn't Keith Fulp do a manifold like that a while back ??
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Post  Lem Evans August 28th 2015, 10:31 pm

Yes

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Post  rmcomprandy August 28th 2015, 10:40 pm

QtrWarrior wrote:Didn't Keith Fulp do a manifold like that a while back ??

I know that Brandon Kinzer has done a similar manifold which works really well; just not as drastic in the plenum area. And, Charlie Evans shortened the end runners in one which made the plenum longer under the carb pad.

Whatever it costs, it certainly won't be as much as a complete sheet metal intake manifold.

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Post  68formalGT August 28th 2015, 10:45 pm

QtrWarrior wrote:Didn't Keith Fulp do a manifold like that a while back ??

He talked about doing a "twist" on a single 4 in his proven build thread.
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Post  68formalGT August 28th 2015, 10:48 pm

QtrWarrior wrote:Didn't Keith Fulp do a manifold like that a while back ??

Was it on this website? Any links to pictures or info?
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Post  Lem Evans August 28th 2015, 10:49 pm

68formalGT wrote:
QtrWarrior wrote:Didn't Keith Fulp do a manifold like that a while back ??

Was it on this website? Any links to pictures or info?

Pictures are on his site.

http://www.keithfulpmotorsports.com/intake-manifolds.html

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Post  68formalGT August 28th 2015, 10:58 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
68formalGT wrote:
QtrWarrior wrote:Didn't Keith Fulp do a manifold like that a while back ??

Was it on this website? Any links to pictures or info?

Pictures are on his site.

http://www.keithfulpmotorsports.com/intake-manifolds.html

Pretty similar other then the one I posted a picture of looks like it may have started with the tunnel ram because the corner runners look more straight instead of curved.
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Post  rmcomprandy August 28th 2015, 11:22 pm

68formalGT wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:
68formalGT wrote:
QtrWarrior wrote:Didn't Keith Fulp do a manifold like that a while back ??

Was it on this website? Any links to pictures or info?

Pictures are on his site.

http://www.keithfulpmotorsports.com/intake-manifolds.html

Pretty similar other then the one I posted a picture of looks like it may have started with the tunnel ram because the corner runners look more straight instead of curved.

I don't know what photo you're looking at, (front runner view especially), but, Tony's end runners are not near being "straight"; none of those runners are.
Keith's site even says in the text explaining those photos of his modified intake, what manifold Keith started with.
Tony's manifold began the same way from a single 4 barrel A460 manifold.

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Post  68formalGT August 28th 2015, 11:52 pm

I think your right Randy. Gabe just emailed me and said he didn't make that intake but he's made some like it and he thought BES made the one in the picture.
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Post  68formalGT August 28th 2015, 11:57 pm

I asked Oakley if it was worth it and if it was could he make it, I haven't heard back yet, maybe by Monday.
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Post  Wheelie58 August 29th 2015, 9:06 am

Guys
The one pictured on my web site was a custom order that started with a new Trick Flow single A460 intake.
It was a very labor intensive part. I cut the carb pad off and saved it for re use. I milled the top of the manifold off and removed front and rear of the plenum area. The only thing left was about 2 inches (front to rear) of the plenum floor. All new parts were fabricated painstakingly and in various stages, welded together, re using the original carb pad.
This one was fully ported and the ports were twisted to match my Interceptor port. Several weeks of work....a little at a time.
It performed well on the dyno and the car is not completed yet.
It ended up being about 1/2" taller than a Trick Flow tunnel ram.
Price?? I have to think about that.
I need to make another and do a dyno shootout between different preps of the single A460, tunnel ram and this one that I called "Frankenstein"
Thanks
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Post  68formalGT August 29th 2015, 10:10 pm

Is that a winter project Keith?
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Post  Wheelie58 August 29th 2015, 10:34 pm

Not much "winter" around here...
Probably 2016
Gotta start preparing for PRI
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Post  68formalGT August 30th 2015, 9:50 am

Are you going to do ported vs un-ported tests on the factory intakes? I saw your testing on the tunnel ram using different tops.
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Post  Wheelie58 August 30th 2015, 12:06 pm

68formalGT wrote:Are you going to do ported vs un-ported tests on the factory intakes? I saw your testing on the tunnel ram using different tops.
Yes
That would be part of the dream test plan.
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Post  68formalGT August 30th 2015, 12:23 pm

Wheelie58 wrote:
68formalGT wrote:Are you going to do ported vs un-ported tests on the factory intakes? I saw your testing on the tunnel ram using different tops.
Yes
That would be part of the dream test plan.

Thanks Keith. I look forward to seeing the results and thank you for sharing the results of your hard work.
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Post  Gary Blair February 3rd 2019, 9:43 am

Wheelie58 wrote:Guys
The one pictured on my web site was a custom order that started with a new Trick Flow single A460 intake.
It was a very labor intensive part. I cut the carb pad off and saved it for re use. I milled the top of the manifold off and removed front and rear of the plenum area. The only thing left was about 2 inches (front to rear) of the plenum floor. All new parts were fabricated painstakingly and in various stages, welded together, re using the original carb pad.
This one was fully ported and the ports were twisted to match my Interceptor port. Several weeks of work....a little at a time.
It performed well on the dyno and the car is not completed yet.
It ended up being about 1/2" taller than a Trick Flow tunnel ram.
Price?? I have to think about that.
I need to make another and do a dyno shootout between different preps of the single A460, tunnel ram and this one that I called "Frankenstein"
Thanks
Keith

Keith, How do they compare track performance wise?
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