429 Overheating
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429 Overheating
I have a 1989 Ford 750 with a 429 in it 16,000 miles , so it’s a pretty low milage truck. Truck runs fine for a year then a few weeks back it overheats. Temp gauge inside the
cab climbs and it overheats again.
We replace the radiator cap 190 degree- same overheating issue
We replace the thermostats (two)- same overheating issue
we check the thermostats - they work fine 13 PSI
we check the timing- dead on
We take the radiator down and have it checked - radiator shop says it’s clogged
We install a new radiator- still over heating
While were in there we replace the water pump, no signs of junk but we put a new one in.
still over heating
we buy a T filler and fill the system up on the heater hose, we use a burper funnel- a few small bubbles both nothing crazy
We check of exhaust gas in radiator fluid- negative
Note engine ideas very smooth.
We do a compression check - all cylinders within a few precent
Checked plugs they look good
We park the truck on a incline fill it up give the engine a few blips to 2-3 K
Truck ideas for 15 minutes and the water in the upper hose near the thermostats start to boil
We use a laser and read 170 on the upper hose 75 on the lower hose- like no waters flowing through. it then boils over.
We check the radiator put the hose in the top end and watch water flow out, so it’s not clogged.
We do a block flush for three days
We test and repeat the boil over
We then replace the water pump again
Retest and it boils over top hose 170 degrees bottom hose 80 degrees.
Seems like that bottom hose should be a lot warmer
mystified. Any suggestions?
cab climbs and it overheats again.
We replace the radiator cap 190 degree- same overheating issue
We replace the thermostats (two)- same overheating issue
we check the thermostats - they work fine 13 PSI
we check the timing- dead on
We take the radiator down and have it checked - radiator shop says it’s clogged
We install a new radiator- still over heating
While were in there we replace the water pump, no signs of junk but we put a new one in.
still over heating
we buy a T filler and fill the system up on the heater hose, we use a burper funnel- a few small bubbles both nothing crazy
We check of exhaust gas in radiator fluid- negative
Note engine ideas very smooth.
We do a compression check - all cylinders within a few precent
Checked plugs they look good
We park the truck on a incline fill it up give the engine a few blips to 2-3 K
Truck ideas for 15 minutes and the water in the upper hose near the thermostats start to boil
We use a laser and read 170 on the upper hose 75 on the lower hose- like no waters flowing through. it then boils over.
We check the radiator put the hose in the top end and watch water flow out, so it’s not clogged.
We do a block flush for three days
We test and repeat the boil over
We then replace the water pump again
Retest and it boils over top hose 170 degrees bottom hose 80 degrees.
Seems like that bottom hose should be a lot warmer
mystified. Any suggestions?
crossram- Posts : 4
Join date : 2016-04-28
Re: 429 Overheating
Water doesn't actually boil till 212. 50/50 shouldn't boil till well over 240.
Are you over filling the radiator? Are you using antifreeze or 50/50 or water?
I have my own running warm issues so I feel your pain.
Are you over filling the radiator? Are you using antifreeze or 50/50 or water?
I have my own running warm issues so I feel your pain.
FSU_Bronco- Posts : 56
Join date : 2015-07-30
Re: 429 Overheating
Personnaly I like to run less antifreeze as antlfreeze is actually not as good a coolant as water is so I run 30-70 40-60.
I think whats happening is that once the thermostats opens the coolant just boils as it passes the thermostat
radiator fluid level is at proper level
I think whats happening is that once the thermostats opens the coolant just boils as it passes the thermostat
radiator fluid level is at proper level
crossram- Posts : 4
Join date : 2016-04-28
Re: 429 Overheating
crossram wrote:Personnaly I like to run less antifreeze as antlfreeze is actually not as good a coolant as water is so I run 30-70 40-60.
I think whats happening is that once the thermostats opens the coolant just boils as it passes the thermostat
radiator fluid level is at proper level
Second question everyone on here will ask is do you have a radiator shroud.
FSU_Bronco- Posts : 56
Join date : 2015-07-30
Re: 429 Overheating
FSU_Bronco wrote:crossram wrote:Personnaly I like to run less antifreeze as antlfreeze is actually not as good a coolant as water is so I run 30-70 40-60.
I think whats happening is that once the thermostats opens the coolant just boils as it passes the thermostat
radiator fluid level is at proper level
Second question everyone on here will ask is do you have a radiator shroud.
Seriously?
It's a 750 truck with a huge radiator and plenty of air flow, not a Mustang.
Not a 150, 250 or 350 it's a 750 as in Big
crossram- Posts : 4
Join date : 2016-04-28
Re: 429 Overheating
crossram wrote:FSU_Bronco wrote:crossram wrote:Personnaly I like to run less antifreeze as antlfreeze is actually not as good a coolant as water is so I run 30-70 40-60.
I think whats happening is that once the thermostats opens the coolant just boils as it passes the thermostat
radiator fluid level is at proper level
Second question everyone on here will ask is do you have a radiator shroud.
Seriously?
It's a 750 truck with a huge radiator and plenty of air flow, not a Mustang.
Not a 150, 250 or 350 it's a 750 as in Big
So does it have a shroud or not?
FSU_Bronco- Posts : 56
Join date : 2015-07-30
Re: 429 Overheating
Where is the second thermostat located? I'm guessing in the lower hose or something? Take it out and see what happens. Maybe it's not seeing enough temp to open and let coolant circulate?
Also, does it have a shroud?
Also, does it have a shroud?
SLord82- Posts : 145
Join date : 2011-07-02
Re: 429 Overheating
SLord82 wrote:Where is the second thermostat located? I'm guessing in the lower hose or something? Take it out and see what happens. Maybe it's not seeing enough temp to open and let coolant circulate?
Also, does it have a shroud?
both are next to each other top of manifold
crossram- Posts : 4
Join date : 2016-04-28
Re: 429 Overheating
crossram wrote:SLord82 wrote:Where is the second thermostat located? I'm guessing in the lower hose or something? Take it out and see what happens. Maybe it's not seeing enough temp to open and let coolant circulate?
Also, does it have a shroud?
both are next to each other top of manifold
They are both opening at the same time will when you boil them?
FSU_Bronco- Posts : 56
Join date : 2015-07-30
Re: 429 Overheating
Probably not your problem since your motor is overheating at idle but is your bottom hose collapsing from the water pump? Lower hose have the ribbed spring enforcement? I'm watching this thread closely as my 429 runs warmer than most fellas I read about.
Cebu- Posts : 2
Join date : 2016-04-04
Re: 429 Overheating
Cebu wrote:Probably not your problem since your motor is overheating at idle but is your bottom hose collapsing from the water pump? Lower hose have the ribbed spring enforcement? I'm watching this thread closely as my 429 runs warmer than most fellas I read about.
What he said.
Ive had the spring in the lower radiator hose break and shift causing the hose to collapse on 2 different occasions.
Start it and get it warm. Then rev the motor while watching the hose.
tbirdmike- Posts : 34
Join date : 2015-07-21
Location : west michigan
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