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Post  75truck November 30th 2016, 12:33 am

I have oversize valves on a 429, heads are D3ve-A , intake 2.25 and was wondering if I should notch the cylinder edge next to the intake valve?

My compression ratio is around 9.8:1.

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Post  Lem Evans November 30th 2016, 12:44 am

Not in my opinion.

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Post  gt350hr November 30th 2016, 12:30 pm

+1 no reason for it.

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Post  Scott Foxwell November 30th 2016, 12:36 pm

Put the head on the block, make a hook scribe and scribe the chamber around the cylinder. Might give you something to think about.

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Post  dfree383 November 30th 2016, 12:48 pm

Not needed with that combo.
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Post  wilmus November 30th 2016, 3:08 pm

Do any heads need that to happen on a stock block?

Meaning do the SCJ's or P51's with the larger valves?

or even the A460 with the 2.35 valves?

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Post  68formalGT November 30th 2016, 3:33 pm

wilmus wrote: Do any heads need that to happen on a stock block?

Meaning do the SCJ's or P51's with the larger valves?

or even the A460 with the 2.35 valves?

I think KJett notched his for his A460 build. I'm not sure of his valve size though.
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Post  Scott Foxwell November 30th 2016, 6:15 pm

wilmus wrote: Do any heads need that to happen on a stock block?

Meaning do the SCJ's or P51's with the larger valves?

or even the A460 with the 2.35 valves?
I don't look at it form a valve size point of view, I look at how the cylinder fits the chamber (or vise verse). It might help cylinder head flow a little but how about flame propagation from the chamber into the cylinder?

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Post  Lem Evans November 30th 2016, 6:41 pm

wilmus wrote: Do any heads need that to happen on a stock block?

Meaning do the SCJ's or P51's with the larger valves?

or even the A460 with the 2.35 valves?

The TFS A460 chamber is the one that is wider that most bores.

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Post  wilmus November 30th 2016, 6:52 pm

I guess what I was asking is would there be any valve contact on a stock block with stock bore if any of those heads were used?

I saw a pic that Lem posted (I think) that showed a fairly large amount of space between a cyl bore and the SCJ heads and its valves

I was wondering if the TFS A460 heads had enough room as well ?
As to not have the valves hit a stock BBF 460 bore?

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Post  rmcomprandy November 30th 2016, 6:56 pm

75truck wrote:I have oversize valves on a 429, heads are D3ve-A , intake 2.25 and was wondering if I should notch the cylinder edge next to the intake valve?

My compression ratio is around 9.8:1.

Bob
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Some cylinder heads have chambers bigger than the bore ... I believe that the D3VE chambers are not.

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Post  Mark Laczo November 30th 2016, 8:55 pm

My Motorsport A460 heads with a 2.35" Intake valve had to have notches on a 4.39" bore block. No notches were needed when I switched to a 4.44" bore block.

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Post  kjett December 1st 2016, 10:08 am

68formalGT wrote:
wilmus wrote: Do any heads need that to happen on a stock block?

Meaning do the SCJ's or P51's with the larger valves?

or even the A460 with the 2.35 valves?

I think KJett notched his for his A460 build. I'm not sure of his valve size though.

I did on my 4.42 bore block. The valves did barely cleared the walls, but we did it more to help unshroud the valve more with such a small bore and big head. It worked out well for my application/build, but may not be needed for another.
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Post  dfree383 December 1st 2016, 10:26 am

wilmus wrote: I guess what I was asking is would there be any valve contact on a stock block with stock bore if any of those heads were used?

I saw a pic that Lem posted (I think) that showed a fairly large amount of space between a cyl bore and the SCJ heads and its valves

I was wondering if the TFS A460 heads had enough room as well ?
As to not have the valves hit a stock BBF 460 bore?

Factory heads with 2.25 valves do not need notched on a 4.36 stock bore
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Post  slurm December 3rd 2016, 10:55 am

Just curious, I have had to notch small bore with blue thunder heads is this normal? I just copied the notches from a 351c. Still pretty close with a 4.390.
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Post  dfree383 December 3rd 2016, 1:12 pm

slurm wrote:Just curious, I have had to notch small bore with blue thunder heads is this normal?  I just copied the notches from a 351c. Still pretty close with a 4.390.

Can't speak for the BT heads if they had 1.88 exhaust valves and Chevy ports never played with those, factory type stuff dosent need it to work.
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