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Post  cool40 April 17th 2010, 11:57 pm

i'm looken to go a little bigger and i know bigger is better but i have a nice bryant 4.250 crank i bought new and have in my engine now.i can go with a idt block and punch it to 4.625,use my crank & rod's=572.or buy another $$$$$ crank & rods 4.500 =605.how much would i be missen out on by going with the 572?let's say the heads would support the 605 very well also,what kinda difference in the peak hp/tq would it have and at what rpm? Question Smile
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Post  jesse April 18th 2010, 12:03 am

i would keep the crank you have
and do the 572
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Post  cool40 April 18th 2010, 12:23 am

i'm kinda thinken Smile
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Post  richter69 April 18th 2010, 12:54 am

if you have a nice crank so sense in buyin another one
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Post  res0rli9 April 18th 2010, 12:59 am

jesse wrote:i would keep the crank you have
and do the 572


no no no!!!! get other crank rods pistons, and give me that junck crank you got in there now befor it falls out and makes a mess.. J/K Smile

keep what you have now and get pistons IMO... BUT IF

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Post  cool40 April 18th 2010, 1:01 am

would the 572 make as much power as a 605 at more rpm?
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Post  Treeyasoon April 18th 2010, 1:06 am

Lets' just say it will make 1.65 HP/Cubic Inch.

572 X 1.65= 943.8
605 X 1.65= 998.25
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Post  cool40 April 18th 2010, 1:25 am

question would be if 55hp is worth the $ of another crank. Laughing
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Post  TravisRice April 18th 2010, 8:02 am

I'd use what you got in hand. If it don't make enough power then just spray the damn thing like Nick would ........... Razz

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Post  the Coug April 18th 2010, 10:42 am

personally I would use what you have allready it is payed for and it will build a bunch of power.....



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Post  Lem Evans April 18th 2010, 10:51 am

Depends on the cyl. heads......which are? A 572" can make 1,000 + hp....one carb. and gas.

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Post  cool40 April 18th 2010, 1:30 pm

Lem Evans wrote:Depends on the cyl. heads......which are? A 572" can make 1,000 + hp....one carb. and gas.
i have a460's but i'd like something better. Smile
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Post  Nevs April 18th 2010, 1:41 pm

cool40 wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:Depends on the cyl. heads......which are? A 572" can make 1,000 + hp....one carb. and gas.
i have a460's but i'd like something better. Smile

I've got a new set of C heads, cnc ported by Charlie Evans, complete with rockers and titanium valves...... Idea
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Post  DanH April 18th 2010, 2:10 pm

I got a new Eliminator Premier ... worked on by nobody

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Post  cool40 April 18th 2010, 6:51 pm

Nevs wrote:
cool40 wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:Depends on the cyl. heads......which are? A 572" can make 1,000 + hp....one carb. and gas.
i have a460's but i'd like something better. Smile

I've got a new set of C heads, cnc ported by Charlie Evans, complete with rockers and titanium valves...... Idea
how would your heads run on a 572 vs's a 605?
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Post  Nevs April 18th 2010, 7:17 pm

cool40 wrote:
Nevs wrote:
cool40 wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:Depends on the cyl. heads......which are? A 572" can make 1,000 + hp....one carb. and gas.
i have a460's but i'd like something better. Smile

I've got a new set of C heads, cnc ported by Charlie Evans, complete with rockers and titanium valves...... Idea
how would your heads run on a 572 vs's a 605?

On a 4.6250" bore, they will work real well. I'd be disappointed if they didn't make way over 1100 horsepower, I figured they would go 1175 in a 605" application. I'm sure Charlie could tell you better than I.
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Post  cool40 April 18th 2010, 7:30 pm

i'm thinken i'll use what i have and go 572.it'll make a lot of power and i have the crank & rods already.what kinda rpm would a 572 peak at with a good c head?
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Post  dfree383 April 18th 2010, 7:33 pm

Depends on cam and induction but 7000-8000 isn't out of line.
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Post  Lem Evans April 18th 2010, 8:12 pm

cool40 wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:Depends on the cyl. heads......which are? A 572" can make 1,000 + hp....one carb. and gas.
i have a460's but i'd like something better. Smile
So would we all...like something better. How good are the A460 units and which castings? There are better A460 deals in most cases . You said you "can" go the elim. block for the 4.625" bore.........what do you have now?
Let's put some context to this....a 4.5" crank will be better than a 4.25"...depending on bore...what bore do you have now? What are the hp goals and budget? .......Then there can be answers.

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Post  cool40 April 18th 2010, 8:43 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
cool40 wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:Depends on the cyl. heads......which are? A 572" can make 1,000 + hp....one carb. and gas.
i have a460's but i'd like something better. Smile
So would we all...like something better. How good are the A460 units and which castings? There are better A460 deals in most cases . You said you "can" go the elim. block for the 4.625" bore.........what do you have now?
Let's put some context to this....a 4.5" crank will be better than a 4.25"...depending on bore...what bore do you have now? What are the hp goals and budget? .......Then there can be answers.
i'll soon find out how "good" my a460's are when i get them off.they're the motorsport's from way back in the 80's,i did the port work,everhow it may be,the block i have is a .080 dove.i plan to have a idt block and wanted to know how much better a 605 would be than a 572.i'd like all the hp i can get Smile and what's a budget? Laughing
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Post  Lem Evans April 18th 2010, 8:52 pm

Bigger engine w/o better heads/manifold.carb/cam may not be very productive.
You "plan" to have big $ block. I'd "plan" to to have better stuff......1st thing is.....find out how good the stuff you have is. I.M.O.

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Post  cool40 April 18th 2010, 9:06 pm

Lem Evans wrote:Bigger engine w/o better heads/manifold.carb/cam may not be very productive.
You "plan" to have big $ block. I'd "plan" to to have better stuff......1st thing is.....find out how good the stuff you have is. I.M.O.
i'll see what the a460's are when i get them off cuz like you said it's good to know.what do you think about the idt 903a plus cnc'd with 2.5/1.82......on a 572? Smile thanks
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Post  Curt April 18th 2010, 9:24 pm

cool40 wrote:what do you think about the idt 903a plus cnc'd with 2.5/1.82....

I think that is a very Large request! You are going to exceed the 4" rule, and make your valves kiss I love you
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Post  DanH April 18th 2010, 9:33 pm

4 inch rule , few heads break that from the start

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Post  Nevs April 18th 2010, 9:34 pm

My C's do, 4.330" combined.....2.450"X1.880".......
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