Is this true?
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Is this true?
I was just told that I should get my car painted first instead of wiring it first.
"He said" Reason being, paint sprayed on the new wiring will / could make the insulation on the wires brittle. No way I can get both done right now (paint and wiring) and make it to KY in may.
If I only do the wiring I can make the bash in May with one ugly bad azz mustang!!
Keep in mind that I'm very anal about doing it right. If there is the slightest chance them new wires are going to get damaged because of the new paint, Then it's getting painted first!!!
"He said" Reason being, paint sprayed on the new wiring will / could make the insulation on the wires brittle. No way I can get both done right now (paint and wiring) and make it to KY in may.
If I only do the wiring I can make the bash in May with one ugly bad azz mustang!!
Keep in mind that I'm very anal about doing it right. If there is the slightest chance them new wires are going to get damaged because of the new paint, Then it's getting painted first!!!
D's557BBF- Posts : 1186
Join date : 2008-12-02
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Re: Is this true?
PAINT THAT MFeR FIRST D..
Just take precautions to protect the paint, like a little foam around the door edges/ etc. No big deal. If thats all you need, it shouldnt be too hard to get ready, especially if you get a Painless kit. Take up Adam's offer and Git er-done.
Al
Just take precautions to protect the paint, like a little foam around the door edges/ etc. No big deal. If thats all you need, it shouldnt be too hard to get ready, especially if you get a Painless kit. Take up Adam's offer and Git er-done.
Al
72mav- Posts : 1081
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Re: Is this true?
Paint wont make it run............wiring will.
You wanna drive it or look at it?
You wanna drive it or look at it?
richter69- Posts : 13649
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Re: Is this true?
richter69 wrote:Paint wont make it run............wiring will.
You wanna drive it or look at it?
I know what cha saying Jon but I don't want to have electrical problems down the road...
D's557BBF- Posts : 1186
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Re: Is this true?
dont paint the wires, either tape um off or undo them and get them out of the way. A quality paintjob wouldn't be one that had the wiring painted over......................
richter69- Posts : 13649
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I'd wire it 1st ,your more likely to scratch the paint than to get paint on the wires. That's why they make masking tape!!
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Re: Is this true?
"D".
If we paint it first will you make it to the BASH?
If not, lets wire that girl up and paint later.
I can toss a black satin primer on it with some cool ass CHROME stickers, she be looking good! (quick and easy).
we can base coat clear coat your silver later!
If we paint it first will you make it to the BASH?
If not, lets wire that girl up and paint later.
I can toss a black satin primer on it with some cool ass CHROME stickers, she be looking good! (quick and easy).
we can base coat clear coat your silver later!
blown86hallet- Posts : 1012
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56Tbird wrote:I'd wire it 1st ,your more likely to scratch the paint than to get paint on the wires. That's why they make masking tape!!
spoken like a professional painter..................^^^^^^^^^.
Don't make shit hard D..........
richter69- Posts : 13649
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Re: Is this true?
paint wont hurt the wires,just look like shit when it starts comen off.thats what tape is for,or you can spray under the hood now and do the outside later.
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Ok thanks guys, I'm going to wire her up first then.
You guys are the best!!! DanO x-mas is coming your way soon brother.
You guys are the best!!! DanO x-mas is coming your way soon brother.
D's557BBF- Posts : 1186
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Thanks D , You da man!!
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wire it first ....... i will wire your car for you ..just get it to me
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Re: Is this true?
petroleum products, oil or gas, will break down regular wire (r90,rw90,t90)
I have never seen evidence of paint breaking down insulation on wire, even at much higher voltages where it would be more prone to fail. In fact i've seen some pretty old houses that have had the service conductors painted since we ran our houses on batteries with no issues.
FWIW in electrical school they warned us about paint and such on wire, but like I said....I never seen any issue.
Also 12 (or 16) volts just isnt enough push to come through the insulation in such a manner. There would need to be significant insulation damage.
I have never seen evidence of paint breaking down insulation on wire, even at much higher voltages where it would be more prone to fail. In fact i've seen some pretty old houses that have had the service conductors painted since we ran our houses on batteries with no issues.
FWIW in electrical school they warned us about paint and such on wire, but like I said....I never seen any issue.
Also 12 (or 16) volts just isnt enough push to come through the insulation in such a manner. There would need to be significant insulation damage.
Diggindeeper- Posts : 800
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Re: Is this true?
bruno wrote:wire it first ....... i will wire your car for you ..just get it to me
That's a helluva offer. Take him up on it before he changes his mind!
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Diggindeeper wrote:petroleum products, oil or gas, will break down regular wire (r90,rw90,t90)
I have never seen evidence of paint breaking down insulation on wire, even at much higher voltages where it would be more prone to fail. In fact i've seen some pretty old houses that have had the service conductors painted since we ran our houses on batteries with no issues.
FWIW in electrical school they warned us about paint and such on wire, but like I said....I never seen any issue.
Also 12 (or 16) volts just isnt enough push to come through the insulation in such a manner. There would need to be significant insulation damage.
The solvents in automotive paint are very volatile. It will make the insulation on the wire brittle. But, like was said before, either cut it in and wire it(then paint the outside later), or just have the whole thing painted and wire it afterwards(just be careful not to scratch the hell out of it while it's being wired)... personally, i'd go with the first option, way less headaches that way...
7litrestang- Posts : 15
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Re: Is this true?
Hey D. I said it before... It doesn't have to look good to go fast! Paint adds weight.
My vote is to sandblast it, throw some salt on it and let mother nature take care of the weight reduction!
My vote is to sandblast it, throw some salt on it and let mother nature take care of the weight reduction!
jbozzelle- Posts : 3705
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Re: Is this true?
I am no scientist and don't know the chemical stuff. All I know is I have a 40 year old John Deere tractor that the wires are painted and they still work fine. It also sits in the rain, drove through mud, dust, dirt, and so on for 40 years. I believe your garaged hot rod would be ok with painted wires. Just one crazy farmers opinion.
plowboy34- Posts : 223
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NO!
D's557BBF wrote:I was just told that I should get my car painted first instead of wiring it first.
"He said" Reason being, paint sprayed on the new wiring will / could make the insulation on the wires brittle. No way I can get both done right now (paint and wiring) and make it to KY in may.
If I only do the wiring I can make the bash in May with one ugly bad azz mustang!!
Keep in mind that I'm very anal about doing it right. If there is the slightest chance them new wires are going to get damaged because of the new paint, Then it's getting painted first!!!
If that were true then evey body shop in the world would have to remove the wiring from every vehicle they repair. Been doing it 41 years and have never seen or heard of any such thing happening.
wowens- Posts : 41
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Re: Is this true?
I'd worry more about the wiring looking like crap than the effects on the insulation. Again thats what tape is for................
richter69- Posts : 13649
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Re: Is this true?
You guy's make shit hard when it don't need to be
bbf-falcon- Posts : 8995
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Re: Is this true?
bbf-falcon wrote:You guy's make shit hard when it don't need to be
Thats only cause Big D is scared to go fast......
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