11,300 lbs!!

Ford EcoBoost Joins F-150 Lineup, Delivers Unbeatable Capability, Power and Fuel Economy
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DALLAS -- With its new 3.5-liter EcoBoost engine, the 2011 Ford F-150 will deliver best-in-class towing capability and torque with outstanding fuel economy.

“Customers have embraced the EcoBoost solution of delivering the power they desire with the fuel economy they demand in a no-compromise package,” said Derrick Kuzak, group vice president, Global Product Development. “From the start, we have pledged that this solution applies to any engine and any customer. The EcoBoost truck engine for the 2011 F-150 will deliver those attributes and has been specially tuned and tested to deliver the best-in-class towing and capability our truck customers demand.”

The key technology built into every EcoBoost engine, including turbocharging and direct fuel injection, is particularly relevant to customers of the 3.5-liter EcoBoost truck engine.

This combination of turbocharging and direct fuel injection delivers a wealth of low-end torque and maintains it across a broad rpm range, which is key in towing applications. The 3.5-liter EcoBoost truck engine delivers 420 lb.-ft. of torque and 365 horsepower to enable best-in-class towing of 11,300 pounds – more than enough to tow a fully loaded three-horse trailer or 30-foot boat, for example. Plus the EcoBoost truck engine does it all on regular fuel and with outstanding fuel economy.

“Truck customers should think of the EcoBoost truck engine as a gas-powered engine with diesel-type capability and characteristics,” said Jim Mazuchowski, V6 engines program manager. “The twin turbochargers and direct injection give it the broad, flat torque curve that makes towing with a diesel so effortless – and hard acceleration so much fun.”

Up to 90 percent of the EcoBoost truck engine’s peak torque is available from 1,700 rpm to 5,000 rpm. A typical comparable V8 competitor reaches peak torque at higher engine speeds – around 4,000 rpm – and holds it for a much smaller range.

“This is good news for customers because the combination of reaching peak torque at a lower engine speed, and maintaining that torque for a longer period, brings new levels of fuel efficiency with maximum towing capability other competitors can’t match,” said Mazuchowski.

This EcoBoost truck engine also features twin independent variable camshaft timing, or Ti-VCT, to help save fuel. Ti-VCT provides extremely precise variable – yet independent – control of timing for intake and exhaust valves. Ti-VCT also reduces emissions, especially in situations when the throttle is partially open.

Independent adjustment of intake and exhaust valve timing allows maximum fuel economy at part-throttle, while delivering optimized power in full-throttle situations. An added benefit is improved driveability and responsiveness across the torque curve.

An all-new engine
Every Ford truck engine undergoes a tortuous testing program, and the EcoBoost truck engine was no exception.

“We’re testing this EcoBoost truck engine just as we would all of our other F-150 truck engines – we have exactly the same expectations and it has to pass all our truck durability and reliability tests,” said Kris Norman, powertrain operations manager. “From our standpoint, this is an all-new engine specifically designed and engineered for the F-150. Everything is validated to the higher stress levels and higher customer usage levels found in any F-150 engine.”

Three avenues that test and validate engines are computer analysis, laboratory testing and in-vehicle validation. For the 3.5-liter EcoBoost application in the 2011 F-150, that includes:

More than 1.5 million hours of analytical time

More than 13,000 hours of dynamometer testing, including more than 5,000 hours at full boost and more than 2,500 hours at or above 5,000 rpm; the dyno testing helps ensure durability in excess of 150,000 miles

More than 100,000 hours of vehicle test time encompassing the full range of potential customer operating conditions

All the tests together replicate more than 1.6 million miles of customer usage – the harshest-use customer. A customer profile reflecting extreme-use driving style, road types and vehicle usage, including maximum towing and payload situations, was developed to underpin the testing program.

The computer modeling and system analysis especially have been key.

“Instead of constantly building and testing parts, we want to be smarter and use our computer skills and our ability to model things to do the upfront work,” Norman said. “We want to get everything right at the start, then validate with extensive testing.”

Turning up the heat
Engineers put the 3.5-liter EcoBoost truck engine on an extreme, accelerated pace. The thermal cycling test, for example, replicated conditions from the Arctic Circle to Death Valley to simulate 10 years of use in the harshest environments.

“On a thermal cycling test, for example, we want the engine to get hot as fast as possible, so the best way to do that is to go full boost at high speed,” Norman said. “To test the structure of the engine, we run it at full boost with maximum load. We run thousands of hours at full boost – conditions not attainable in a real-drive situation but important for proving this F-150 is ready to go the distance.”

The 2011 F-150 with EcoBoost will be available in early 2011.

How does the tranny shift?

I'm going to stick with my 2010 5.4 untill 2013 and give you guru's a change to get everything perfect on those, before i rush out and buy a V6 to tow 11,300#.

They do sound bad ass if everything works like is supposed too.

richter69 wrote:How does the tranny shift?

Automatic......just put it in drive.

Lem Evans wrote:

richter69 wrote:How does the tranny shift?

Automatic......just put it in drive.

but they bring it back bitching about the shift quality...............I just tell them to drive it until it needs to come on a hook.

Everything in post # 1 sounds good. Hope Ford sells a gazillion of them so that in the year 2020, I can buy a used up one for cheap.....

Wonder if someone at Ford will "create" a loop-hole in the order system that will allow a customer to get that Eco-Boost in a stripped down shortbed , reg. cab, 2wd ?

83-88T-Bird Guy wrote:Everything in post # 1 sounds good. Hope Ford sells a gazillion of them so that in the year 2020, I can buy a used up one for cheap.....

Wonder if someone at Ford will "create" a loop-hole in the order system that will allow a customer to get that Eco-Boost in a stripped down short bed , reg. cab, 2wd ?

We are LOAO! My co-worker has a 2010 4.6 three valve short bed reg cab 4x4 with a 6R80 and 373 gears and he has not lost to a mustang yet from light to light. All morning he keeps saying "they have to let us buy it that way"!!!!

Yesterday at work I told him if we left from a rolling 30 mph I could beat him to the next light. Well we did it and he had so much wheel hop when that trans kicked down he let up!!!!

Same truck with the 3.5 twin turbo could be our new lighting!!

richter69 wrote:

Lem Evans wrote:

richter69 wrote:How does the tranny shift?

Automatic......just put it in drive.

but they bring it back bitching about the shift quality...............I just tell them to drive it until it needs to come on a hook.

I just got a 2010 F-150 4X4 XLT Supercab 4.6 3V and 6 speed auto,the first to second shift isn't the greatest but the other gears seem okay.

Later Mark.

wow...365hp ..the supercharged lighting only had like 380, maybe that motor will end up in the base mustang

Mark Miller wrote:

richter69 wrote:

Lem Evans wrote:

richter69 wrote:How does the tranny shift?

Automatic......just put it in drive.

but they bring it back bitching about the shift quality...............I just tell them to drive it until it needs to come on a hook.

I just got a 2010 F-150 4X4 XLT Supercab 4.6 3V and 6 speed auto,the first to second shift isn't the greatest but the other gears seem okay.

Later Mark.

The 6 speeds have some crazy deep gearing in first (4.41:1) I'm assuming ford did this for towing capacity. I'd think the short shift time would have something to do with it, mines the same way.

dfree383 wrote:
The 6 speeds have some crazy deep gearing in first (4.41:1) I'm assuming ford did this for towing capacity. I'd think the short shift time would have something to do with it, mines the same way.

They are all like that, I don't know why but have you ever stepped on it from a light? That 1st gear wakes right up right now!!!!

Denaro: How does the torque of the ecoboost 3.5 compare to the current 5.4? I've always thought the 5.4's were gutless compared to the 5.7 Hemi. What is the projected fuel economy for an F 150 w/ the ecoboost engine? My Hemi will pass anything on the road, except a gas station! I could use a little better fuel mileage, but I don't want to give up all the power to do it. Sounds like this might be what I need.
Gary

GTmustang wrote:Denaro: How does the torque of the ecoboost 3.5 compare to the current 5.4? I've always thought the 5.4's were gutless compared to the 5.7 Hemi. What is the projected fuel economy for an F 150 w/ the ecoboost engine? My Hemi will pass anything on the road, except a gas station! I could use a little better fuel mileage, but I don't want to give up all the power to do it. Sounds like this might be what I need.
Gary

Funny, I have never been out ran by a Hemi at the dragstrip.(10.18 in the 1/8 mile) 09 supercrew 4x4

Are you comparing to the 2valve 5.4 or 3valve 5.4?

GTmustang wrote:Denaro: How does the torque of the ecoboost 3.5 compare to the current 5.4? I've always thought the 5.4's were gutless compared to the 5.7 Hemi. What is the projected fuel economy for an F 150 w/ the ecoboost engine? My Hemi will pass anything on the road, except a gas station! I could use a little better fuel mileage, but I don't want to give up all the power to do it. Sounds like this might be what I need.
Gary

Hey Gary, It's no comparison man. This new deal tops it at every test. More HP more Tq, EcoBoost truck engine’s peak torque is available from 1,700 rpm to 5,000 rpm. A typical comparable V8 competitor reaches peak torque at higher engine speeds – around 4,000 rpm – and holds it for a much smaller range.

Ford haven't released the fuel numbers yet but we predict it will beat the 4.6 three valve which comes in at 20 highway. I will keep all posted as i get that info...

Thanks Denaro, keep us posted. I drive a Dodge Ram and my brother drives a Chevy Silverado and we are both interested it one. I was planning to buy a new truck next spring or summer. I owned a couple turbo 4cyl Dodge Daytonas back in the 80's and then I bought an '87 Mustang GT and have been hooked on that V8 torque ever since. Its hard to believe I could end up with a V6 powered truck! Will you adopt me so I can get the Employee Discount?
Gary

GTmustang wrote:Thanks Denaro, keep us posted. I drive a Dodge Ram and my brother drives a Chevy Silverado and we are both interested it one. I was planning to buy a new truck next spring or summer. I owned a couple turbo 4cyl Dodge Daytonas back in the 80's and then I bought an '87 Mustang GT and have been hooked on that V8 torque ever since. Its hard to believe I could end up with a V6 powered truck! Will you adopt me so I can get the Employee Discount?
Gary

We will work something out when the time comes son!!!

dfree383 wrote:

Mark Miller wrote:

richter69 wrote:

Lem Evans wrote:

richter69 wrote:How does the tranny shift?

Automatic......just put it in drive.

but they bring it back bitching about the shift quality...............I just tell them to drive it until it needs to come on a hook.

I just got a 2010 F-150 4X4 XLT Supercab 4.6 3V and 6 speed auto,the first to second shift isn't the greatest but the other gears seem okay.

Later Mark.

The 6 speeds have some crazy deep gearing in first (4.41:1) I'm assuming ford did this for towing capacity. I'd think the short shift time would have something to do with it, mines the same way.

Dave,Have you tried yours with the Tow/Haul activated,i thought mine shifted better like that?

Later Mark.

jones wrote:

GTmustang wrote:Denaro: How does the torque of the ecoboost 3.5 compare to the current 5.4? I've always thought the 5.4's were gutless compared to the 5.7 Hemi. What is the projected fuel economy for an F 150 w/ the ecoboost engine? My Hemi will pass anything on the road, except a gas station! I could use a little better fuel mileage, but I don't want to give up all the power to do it. Sounds like this might be what I need.
Gary

Funny, I have never been out ran by a Hemi at the dragstrip.(10.18 in the 1/8 mile) 09 supercrew 4x4

Are you comparing to the 2valve 5.4 or 3valve 5.4?

Jones,is there any modifications done to your truck and what's in run in the 1/4 mile?
I had a 2007 F-150 Supercab 4X4 5.4 3V 3.55 Gears and the best it ran was a 10.775 in the 1/8 mile and a 16.65 in the 1/4 mile maybe elevation difference?

Later Mark.

Haven't tried it, I try it on the way to work this morning. I believe the trucks computer also learns how you drive too and trys to fit your driving style. Big D could probably fill us in on that??

dfree383 wrote:Haven't tried it, I try it on the way to work this morning. I believe the trucks computer also learns how you drive too and trys to fit your driving style. Big D could probably fill us in on that??

Dave it may feel like that (fit your driving style) but that's not what's going on. That 5.4 3 valve use's the cam to find the sweet spot. It's called Variable Camshaft Timing, this is how I explain it to people. It's like hitting the nitrous button when that cam finds the sweet spot it likes at that very moment. If I could race my 1999 F 150 5.4 two valve 240 hp against my 2006 Expedition 5.4 three valve 300 hp in the 1/4 mile.

That 5.4 2 valve would get out 3 car lengths before the 5.4 3 valve would hit that sweet spot then go like hell. I still think the 5.4 3 valve would catch the 2 valve but it would be way to close for a 60 hp difference!!

Mark Miller wrote:

jones wrote:

GTmustang wrote:Denaro: How does the torque of the ecoboost 3.5 compare to the current 5.4? I've always thought the 5.4's were gutless compared to the 5.7 Hemi. What is the projected fuel economy for an F 150 w/ the ecoboost engine? My Hemi will pass anything on the road, except a gas station! I could use a little better fuel mileage, but I don't want to give up all the power to do it. Sounds like this might be what I need.
Gary

Funny, I have never been out ran by a Hemi at the dragstrip.(10.18 in the 1/8 mile) 09 supercrew 4x4

Are you comparing to the 2valve 5.4 or 3valve 5.4?

Jones,is there any modifications done to your truck and what's in run in the 1/4 mile?
I had a 2007 F-150 Supercab 4X4 5.4 3V 3.55 Gears and the best it ran was a 10.775 in the 1/8 mile and a 16.65 in the 1/4 mile maybe elevation difference?

Later Mark.

Bone stock.
It might have the 3.73 gears but I believe it is the 3.55. with 20" wheels. I put it on the dyno not long after I got the truck and had the most hp / trq for a factory truck at the dyno day. (I want to say it was 275hp 365ftlbs at the wheels.) Not exactly sure on the type of dyno nor did I get a print out, just what they wrote on the board. It was only $15 for one pull.

I do plan on racing it again in December, I might get lucky and have a programmer by then.

I think this is a picture of me and a buddy racing. (all I see is a red X)

Put in to Tow mod and didn't change the 1-2 shift.

dfree383 wrote:Put in to Tow mod and didn't change the 1-2 shift.

Mine feels like it looses power when I put it in Tow / Haul mode. The 2007 6.0 felt the same way, I'd just turn it on to help me come to a stop with a heavy load.

Jones,

Maybe the elevation difference,is yours a 6 speed and i think the 2009-2010 5.4 might be a little more power than the 2007 i had why it's faster.

Later Mark.