Building and all out drag motor
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Building and all out drag motor
In the process of building an all out drag car 1992 mustang gt with 25.2 chassis stock suspension powergide trans fab 9 rear. wonting to go with a stock block either a 429 or 460 to try and save a little money. The performace I'm wonting to get out of the block is at least 1000 + or as close as possible and then run 2-4 stages of nitrous on top of 1000 Horses in all trying to get about 1500 + horsepower. Is this even possible with a stock block and Wich block would you recomend. And What's the best way to go about doing it ? Open to all replies. Thanks
Dre Day- Posts : 14
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Re: Building and all out drag motor
well the first thing you need to get is a A460 block,or its going to came apart quick. stock block ant going to cut it.
res0rli9- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Were can I find an a460 Blockkand then after iget the block were do I go from there?
Dre Day- Posts : 14
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Dre Day wrote:Were can I find an a460 Blockkand then after iget the block were do I go from there?
Lem Evans has them and anything else you'll need and well help you spec. it out and even build it for you, or just tell ya what you need to get there, good guy. He's a member here, call or email him, no pm's.
He's at the top of home page, B F Evans Ford
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Thanks just look the block up its a real reasonable price . I was thiKing those bLocks like that would be around 4 or 5 grandi can handle the 2 grand price.
Dre Day- Posts : 14
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Re: Building and all out drag motor
what class do you want to run ?? what are the rules ?? what times are they turning ?? etc ....
definetly go with an a460 block, a460 heads (if the rules permit) 570-600 cubes , single carb will get you there ,
but i would give Lem Evans a call to discuss your build , he is a great guy and will be glad to help you out on this process
definetly go with an a460 block, a460 heads (if the rules permit) 570-600 cubes , single carb will get you there ,
but i would give Lem Evans a call to discuss your build , he is a great guy and will be glad to help you out on this process
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Re: Building and all out drag motor
Will be running super street 10.5 and as far as e.t. Wonting the car to run 7's in the1/4 mile.
Dre Day- Posts : 14
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Dre Day wrote:Will be running super street 10.5 and as far as e.t. Wonting the car to run 7's in the1/4 mile.
with that class and at the weight the car needs to be you gonna need some juice for 7.90's and a ton of juice for 7.00 's .... probably a triple fogger setup should make you competive in that class .....
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Re: Building and all out drag motor
Bruno, thought about running turbos they say its a lot easier on the motor. How much juice do you think wIth the 3 stage set up?
Dre Day- Posts : 14
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Re: Building and all out drag motor
Run that engine as high in the RPM range as your valve train weight will allow.
Make the rest of the components match THAT maximum RPM.
Make the rest of the components match THAT maximum RPM.
Re: Building and all out drag motor
Dre Day wrote:Bruno, thought about running turbos they say its a lot easier on the motor. How much juice do you think wIth the 3 stage set up?
more cost up front, but the possibility of less cost down the road with turbos
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eliminator products makes a good block too. ........dont shoot me Lem!
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cool40 wrote:eliminator products makes a good block too. ........dont shoot me Lem!
yes they do
BOSS 429- Posts : 2372
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Were can you find the eliminater blocks at?
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rmcomprandy wrote:Run that engine as high in the RPM range as your valve train weight will allow.
Make the rest of the components match THAT maximum RPM.
what would a premium valve train consist of in an A460 set-up?...
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Dre Day wrote:Were can you find the eliminater blocks at?
i sell them,and so do a few others here
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\138 wrote:rmcomprandy wrote:Run that engine as high in the RPM range as your valve train weight will allow.
Make the rest of the components match THAT maximum RPM.
what would a premium valve train consist of in an A460 set-up?...
that depends on a few things...
what heads are we using?,are we using a stock ratio? will I need to clearance the pushrod slots? make rocker stand shims? using a shaft rocker?, now push rods max effort high rpm can be 300.00 easy, springs to controll the valves 350 to 400.00 plus, now valves tit 2000.00avg price, more r and d time,am i using a stock lenght? keepers/ret's. theres a lot to think about
-rich
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well whats an A460 headed, pump gas 4.300 stroke, 4.500 bore, all good stuff, nitrous motor gonna want to rev?...
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138 wrote:well whats an A460 headed, pump gas 4.300 stroke, 4.500 bore, all good stuff, nitrous motor gonna want to rev?...
10,000 if the Coug has it
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Re: Building and all out drag motor
138 wrote:rmcomprandy wrote:Run that engine as high in the RPM range as your valve train weight will allow.
Make the rest of the components match THAT maximum RPM.
what would a premium valve train consist of in an A460 set-up?...
Whether or not it is considered a PREMIUM valve train has little to do with the weight of that valve train.
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138 wrote:well whats an A460 headed, pump gas 4.300 stroke, 4.500 bore, all good stuff, nitrous motor gonna want to rev?...
thats another loaded question, i would never try to make a max power pump gas engine with nos, you will get to a point with the pump gas and nos it will not make anymore power,and fall off.Or it will selfdestruck rpm wont even be in the math its going to go wheres its going to go . max power pump gas n.a. is different, but the 93 and lower oct will hold you back with nos.
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