Transmission Cooling
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Transmission Cooling
Is it necessary to run transmission cooling lines from the transmission to the radiator in non-race/heavy duty applications?
Thanks,
Keith
Thanks,
Keith
TheFrog- Posts : 81
Join date : 2010-11-03
Re: Transmission Cooling
It is necessary to at least run them in a loop, but I personally think they should go thru a cooler.
Curt- Posts : 2791
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Re: Transmission Cooling
they don't have to go to the radiator cooler but I would definitely run a cooler.
whatbumper- Posts : 3024
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Re: Transmission Cooling
Thanks guys.
Is it better to run solid lines or flexible lines?
Is it better to run solid lines or flexible lines?
TheFrog- Posts : 81
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Re: Transmission Cooling
A long time ago I read where it was suggested for street/towing use in cold climates that you should keep the factory radiator trans cooler/warmer in the loop when adding an auxiliary trans cooler. But in warmer areas it was OK to bypass the radiator cooler/warmer & just use an aux cooler by it's self.
On drag cars I have seen guys with 'glides & TH400's not using any cooler & just looping a line. But it's usually on a car that doesn't see street use or doesn't get hot lapped at the track. The Rossler 2 speed TH400 stuff has plugs in both cooler line ports so you don't bother looping a line. Guess he does something inside the case/pump to redirect the flow.
For street use it's hard to beat using hard lines for most of the cooler plumbing with flex line used only at the connections vs using 100% flexible line.
On drag cars I have seen guys with 'glides & TH400's not using any cooler & just looping a line. But it's usually on a car that doesn't see street use or doesn't get hot lapped at the track. The Rossler 2 speed TH400 stuff has plugs in both cooler line ports so you don't bother looping a line. Guess he does something inside the case/pump to redirect the flow.
For street use it's hard to beat using hard lines for most of the cooler plumbing with flex line used only at the connections vs using 100% flexible line.
DILLIGASDAVE- Posts : 2262
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Re: Transmission Cooling
What is meant by, "running the lines in a loop"?
TheFrog- Posts : 81
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Re: Transmission Cooling
TheFrog wrote:What is meant by, "running the lines in a loop"?
Ju st get you a long piece of line hook one end to tranny, run it along frame rail, or something, and run it back to tranny, and hook other end up, just make a big loop with line.
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Re: Transmission Cooling
Run a cooler its necessary on the street and is benificial on race applications too. Cooler is better for transmission life.
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Transmission Cooling
dfree383 wrote:Run a cooler its necessary on the street and is benificial on race applications too. Cooler is better for transmission life.
....Definately !!!!!!!
342g- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Transmission Cooling
Thanks again guys!
The radiator I recently purchased already has a built in transmission cooler so I'll go ahead and hook into that. I was just wondering if I get by without hooking into it due to needing to run lines and stuff like that.
Keith
The radiator I recently purchased already has a built in transmission cooler so I'll go ahead and hook into that. I was just wondering if I get by without hooking into it due to needing to run lines and stuff like that.
Keith
TheFrog- Posts : 81
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Re: Transmission Cooling
You can use that one or a auxillary cooler too. Good idea to run both.
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Transmission Cooling
I run a stacked trans cooler with a thermostat controlled fan. Also running -8 teflon braided hose to and from the cooler. Overkill? Possibly, but the likelyhood of my transmission failing due to heat is slim to none.
D. Sea- Posts : 2768
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Re: Transmission Cooling
Should an auxillary cooler and/or stacked transcooler be mounted up front with the radiator?
TheFrog- Posts : 81
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Re: Transmission Cooling
pulled my big cooler and fan off, put one of them heat sink deals on and it works great in my application..........would not want to try it in a hot lap situation though.
richter69- Posts : 13649
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Re: Transmission Cooling
TheFrog wrote:Should an auxillary cooler and/or stacked transcooler be mounted up front with the radiator?
If it has a fan, then you can mount it about anywhere.
D. Sea- Posts : 2768
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Re: Transmission Cooling
If it is a automatic of any kind size type shape form or fashion it needs a cooler!
I have built a lot of transmissions out of pulling trucks and tractors over the years that a burned up due to pluging the lines or just looping it.
The transmission doesn't get its heat at wide open throttle third gear at say 7000rpm. The Torque converter greats heat and a lot of it at start because it is slipping. The higher the stall speed the more heat. Then once the heat is in it it is hard to get it out of it! Also that heat however much it is or how long it stays in it bakes the seals and causes the clutch and band material to deteriorate prematurely .
Put a cooler on it!
I have built a lot of transmissions out of pulling trucks and tractors over the years that a burned up due to pluging the lines or just looping it.
The transmission doesn't get its heat at wide open throttle third gear at say 7000rpm. The Torque converter greats heat and a lot of it at start because it is slipping. The higher the stall speed the more heat. Then once the heat is in it it is hard to get it out of it! Also that heat however much it is or how long it stays in it bakes the seals and causes the clutch and band material to deteriorate prematurely .
Put a cooler on it!
whitefield- Posts : 2244
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Re: Transmission Cooling
If you do run a stacked design, just make sure you install it correctly! I have mine upside down!!!
Now that it is fixed all is good.
Justin
Now that it is fixed all is good.
Justin
jcoxracing- Posts : 282
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Re: Transmission Cooling
my little heatsink deal worked pretty good, didnt mind the hot lapping last friday lol.
richter69- Posts : 13649
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Re: Transmission Cooling
Since this is about cooling a C6, what temps is recommended for a C6? Is there such a thing as too cold?
Dave S.
Dave S.
wvmudder- Posts : 139
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Re: Transmission Cooling
wvmudder wrote:Since this is about cooling a C6, what temps is recommended for a C6? Is there such a thing as too cold?
Dave S.
and what is to hot.
res0rli9- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Transmission Cooling
My 180F Thermostat kicks the fan on...
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