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Post  69F100 May 8th 2011, 9:06 am

Nick mark the shock so you know witch way to turn it to soften or tighten them up.I need to mark mine some times we get to adjusting things a forget one might turn counter clockwise and the other clockwise.Will make for adjustment down the road easier with a few things and helps the mind out the older we get.
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Post  KY JELLY May 8th 2011, 9:15 am

A lot of suspension travel like your saying will cause the excess wheelie and tightening the shocks should help , but you got back in it after the bounce and multiplied the wheelie on that pass. I am not saying you could have rode it out and I think wheelie bars are a good idea , but I try to stay off mine and just tune with the suspension I don't even get on the bars until I get in the 1.10-1.08 60 times our cars are night and day difference though.
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Post  Barney May 8th 2011, 10:50 am

You shouldnt lift in a wheelie. Just grab second if it gets too high and it will come down smooth( fenders are cheaper than oil pans). You could also try moving you I/C back to keep the front end down and messing with the limiters to find your sweet spot. Wheelie bars definitely help too.
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Post  DILLIGASDAVE May 8th 2011, 6:51 pm

Barney wrote:....You could also try moving you I/C back to keep the front end down........
Moving the I/C forward and/or back doesn't always result in the expected outcome. I have seen some cars wheelstand higher with a shorter I/C, and some go higher with a longer I/C. It usually depends more on what a given car's combo really needs to work as efficiently as possible.

That's why I feel that on a lot of 4-link cars somewhere around the 45-50" range is usually a good starting point for the I/C length on a new car/combo. That way you have a decent amount of adjustment either direction to work with.

Of course moving the I/C forward-back wont help Nick much if he still has a ladder bar setup. If that's the case then wheelie bars, shock/strut valving, suspension travel, movable ballast, & air pressure will all become that much more important tools.
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Post  DILLIGASDAVE May 8th 2011, 7:03 pm

bruno wrote:what an idiot ..... i adjust the struts clockwise , thinking that is full tight ....well guess what ....not on the strange deals its counter clock wise for full tight .....im i right guys ?......
Don't be too hard on yourself, these things happen cuz different company's do things different.

On rear shocks both Koni & Santhuff each go different directions when tightening the top extension valving windows. Sometimes I do forget which shock's top adj window goes which direction. That's why I usually draw an arrow somewhere under the car on a piece of tape near each shock.
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Post  cool40 May 8th 2011, 10:04 pm

DILLIGASDAVE wrote:
bruno wrote:what an idiot ..... i adjust the struts clockwise , thinking that is full tight ....well guess what ....not on the strange deals its counter clock wise for full tight .....im i right guys ?......
Don't be too hard on yourself, these things happen cuz different company's do things different.

On rear shocks both Koni & Santhuff each go different directions when tightening the top extension valving windows. Sometimes I do forget which shock's top adj window goes which direction. That's why I usually draw an arrow somewhere under the car on a piece of tape near each shock.
that makes 2 of us Nick! Laughing mine were tight as they'd go. Rolling Eyes i dont want to talk about the tire guage issue............ Embarassed
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Post  IDT-572 May 8th 2011, 10:36 pm

Holy shit Nick............. Shocked affraid Cool

Baby steps brother , just don't do more than one thing at a time. sneak up on it.
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Post  605FOX May 9th 2011, 7:56 am

engine sounds stout , is this with the c-headed deal ? , well either way you have to much travel up front , we have .5 on our dr car ----- if i was you i would put those shocks at full tight and start out at 1" of travel anything else is asking for trouble .


btw you have a bad machine there Bruno , hope you get the launch squared away Wink

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Post  bigblockfox468 May 9th 2011, 8:28 am

Whoa Bruno Shocked talk about some power. Get you some bars on it and be careful dude Wink
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Post  bruno May 9th 2011, 9:24 am

IDT-572 wrote:Holy shit Nick............. Shocked affraid Cool

Baby steps brother , just don't do more than one thing at a time. sneak up on it.

that is baby steps Laughing ........ i havent even turned on the fogger yet Twisted Evil

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Post  bruno May 9th 2011, 9:25 am

605FOX wrote:engine sounds stout , is this with the c-headed deal ? , well either way you have to much travel up front , we have .5 on our dr car ----- if i was you i would put those shocks at full tight and start out at 1" of travel anything else is asking for trouble .


btw you have a bad machine there Bruno , hope you get the launch squared away Wink


c-heads Laughing Laughing Laughing what are those silent ........ yep we are going to put this front suspension on lockdown Wink

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Post  IDT-572 May 9th 2011, 9:25 am

bruno wrote:
IDT-572 wrote:Holy shit Nick............. Shocked affraid Cool

Baby steps brother , just don't do more than one thing at a time. sneak up on it.

that is baby steps Laughing ........ i havent even turned on the fogger yet Twisted Evil

Those front tire really looked like they were taking baby steps................. Razz Razz Razz
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Post  bruno May 9th 2011, 9:25 am

bigblockfox468 wrote:Whoa Bruno Shocked talk about some power. Get you some bars on it and be careful dude Wink


we will .....

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Post  D. Sea May 9th 2011, 12:23 pm

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Frank Merkl wrote:can you say "Wheelie Bars" , all the fast cars run them! and they do have a purpose , tends to keep cars off the top of the guard rail!
Frank

bars are going on .......i want to keep the top side shiny Very Happy

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Hate to see your car get damaged but good that it wasn't worse. Bars are my friends What a Face
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Post  738drvr May 9th 2011, 11:40 pm

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605FOX wrote:engine sounds stout , is this with the c-headed deal ? , well either way you have to much travel up front , we have .5 on our dr car ----- if i was you i would put those shocks at full tight and start out at 1" of travel anything else is asking for trouble .


btw you have a bad machine there Bruno , hope you get the launch squared away Wink


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Post  nuclearcobra May 10th 2011, 8:11 am

Shocked Come on man that baby wheel stand should'nt scared ya Laughing hope ya get it back soon looks killer Twisted Evil
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Post  jmayabb May 10th 2011, 12:23 pm

Come on Nick. Leave the sissy sticks off. lol. Tighten up that front end and you will see a huge difference. Do you have the front end tied down too? That is a good idea also.
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Post  bruno May 10th 2011, 8:09 pm

jmayabb wrote:Come on Nick. Leave the sissy sticks off. lol. Tighten up that front end and you will see a huge difference. Do you have the front end tied down too? That is a good idea also.

i will Joe , im going to give it one more try this weekend without bars ......... Shocked got a grudge race set up at MMP friday night at the Patriot Event ...we shall see Twisted Evil

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Post  NOS42 May 10th 2011, 8:56 pm

no bars and go easy....i know, easier said than done....good luck, looks great!
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