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Post  stanggt January 8th 2012, 9:54 pm

Imwanting to get my BBF as low in chassis as I can for hood room. has any one dropped there rack down from stock location on a tubular k-member (i use QA1)? Looks like to do this isnt the issue that I see, its the tie rods will run up hill to the spindles. Is this an issue?
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Post  Barney January 8th 2012, 10:07 pm

Bump steer kit will help that.
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Post  stanggt January 8th 2012, 10:15 pm

Barney wrote:Bump steer kit will help that.
where might one shop for that bump steer kit? bounce
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Post  Barney January 8th 2012, 10:17 pm

UPR, STEEDA, Team Z, PA, there's a bunch out there.
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Post  stanggt January 8th 2012, 10:22 pm

Barney wrote:UPR, STEEDA, Team Z, PA, there's a bunch out there.
cool, thanks I will call Team Z, they are down by detroit I think.
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Post  Barney January 8th 2012, 10:44 pm

Yes they are.
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Post  yellowhorse7 January 9th 2012, 9:46 am

Make sure to use offset rack bushings as well
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Post  stanggt January 9th 2012, 10:15 am

yellowhorse7 wrote:Make sure to use offset rack bushings as well
where do those go? I was just gunna relocate the rack mounts down 2 inches.
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Post  jbozzelle January 11th 2012, 11:59 am

It's the bushings that are used to mount the rack to the k-member.

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Post  stanggt January 11th 2012, 6:07 pm

jbozzelle wrote:It's the bushings that are used to mount the rack to the k-member.
gotcha. was looking at the rack last night and it doesnt look like I can move it down much at all cause the rack will hit the bar that goes up to the frame that the a-arm is attached to on drivers side. (Steering gear part of rack that shoots up to shaft)
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Post  jbozzelle January 11th 2012, 7:04 pm

What k-member are you using? Most dropped rack k-members also have a dropped crossmember too.

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Post  stanggt January 11th 2012, 7:46 pm

Brain fart, Im not using the power rack that is on the car, gunna replace with flaming river manual and looking at the pics I wont have that issue. i should be good. Thanks
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Post  stanggt January 11th 2012, 7:48 pm

jbozzelle wrote:What k-member are you using? Most dropped rack k-members also have a dropped crossmember too.
not sure, think its a QA1 since the guy that built car used all QA1 suspension parts. kmember has adjustable heims on a-arms.
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Post  Larry Williams January 11th 2012, 8:51 pm

why not just use K member spacers? Thats what i did for clearance issues. I used a 1 inch spacer kit
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Post  stanggt January 12th 2012, 11:00 am

Larry Williams wrote:why not just use K member spacers? Thats what i did for clearance issues. I used a 1 inch spacer kit
dont need to drop the Kmember if I can drop the rack. The top of rack is 3 inches from top of kmember cross bar. Drop the rack and bumpsteer kit and its good.
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Post  jbozzelle January 13th 2012, 12:10 am

You can always buy a dropped rack k-member and sell what you have. You can also switch to a Pinto rack and gain a few more inches as well...

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Post  bigblockfox468 January 13th 2012, 5:20 pm

Had to lower my rack also to fit the new mill in with an Moroso Elimnator pan.

We just cut that front k-member tube the rack fastens to and re-fabbed a new one, got the rack lowered a couple of inches. I had to lenghten the steering shaft as needed. The rack now probaby sits almost level with the new tube. Took toe measurements before and re-set them after I was done. I was concerned about bump steer also. I ran the car down the road for a couple of miles it seemed okay, so I took it to the strip and did 5 passes. Didn't feel anything out of the ordinary. I later installed some caster/camber plates and got it re-aligned. So far so good. Hope the picture helps.

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Post  stanggt January 13th 2012, 6:04 pm

bigblockfox468 wrote:Had to lower my rack also to fit the new mill in with an Moroso Elimnator pan.

We just cut that front k-member tube the rack fastens to and re-fabbed a new one, got the rack lowered a couple of inches. I had to lenghten the steering shaft as needed. The rack now probaby sits almost level with the new tube. Took toe measurements before and re-set them after I was done. I was concerned about bump steer also. I ran the car down the road for a couple of miles it seemed okay, so I took it to the strip and did 5 passes. Didn't feel anything out of the ordinary. I later installed some caster/camber plates and got it re-aligned. So far so good. Hope the picture helps.

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looks good, Im gunnadrill the tubes for each mount and weld a peice of pipe into the lower tube that will fit the rack bushing and run it through lower bar and weld both side, slide the rack back onto it and bolt er on.Im gunna use a bump steer kit though.
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Post  bigblockfox468 January 13th 2012, 6:42 pm

stanggt wrote:
looks good, Im gunnadrill the tubes for each mount and weld a peice of pipe into the lower tube that will fit the rack bushing and run it through lower bar and weld both side, slide the rack back onto it and bolt er on.Im gunna use a bump steer kit though.


Cool Good luck . Keep us posted and TAKE PICTURES Exclamation Very Happy

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Post  stanggt January 13th 2012, 9:38 pm

ya, I know who Dan is, dont know alot about him though. What track do u run at? maybe we'll hook up at some point if i can get this beast back on the road, like to race it,its been awile. Some day I will learn how to attach pics here. lol!
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Post  bigblockfox468 January 13th 2012, 10:35 pm

I run at Ubly and Lapeer. Plan on getting up to Mid-Michigan once I get everythig all sorted out.

To post pictures it isn't too hard. First go to photobucket.com and get an account set up- its free , upload your pictures there, then when you want to post here move your mouse over the picture, a drop down will show up, left click on the IMG code and it will copy your picture then get back here to post a reply and right click woo lah its there Laughing
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Post  stanggt January 14th 2012, 1:24 pm

cool thanks for the info, I should be able to do that. As soon as I go down and pick up my A460 block I will start dropping some pics as it goes together. bounce
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Post  stanggt January 16th 2012, 4:23 pm

bigblockfox468 wrote:Had to lower my rack also to fit the new mill in with an Moroso Elimnator pan.

We just cut that front k-member tube the rack fastens to and re-fabbed a new one, got the rack lowered a couple of inches. I had to lenghten the steering shaft as needed. The rack now probaby sits almost level with the new tube. Took toe measurements before and re-set them after I was done. I was concerned about bump steer also. I ran the car down the road for a couple of miles it seemed okay, so I took it to the strip and did 5 passes. Didn't feel anything out of the ordinary. I later installed some caster/camber plates and got it re-aligned. So far so good. Hope the picture helps.

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when u dropped your rack did u have to move it towards the pass side a little so the shaft would clear the upright bar?
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Post  bigblockfox468 January 17th 2012, 5:53 pm

stanggt wrote:when u dropped your rack did u have to move it towards the pass side a little so the shaft would clear the upright bar?

Sorry bout the delayed reply.... but no I had plenty of clearance concerning that upright and still do. When we cut and designed that lower k-member cross over we made sure the rack wasn't going to be shifted one way or the other.
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Post  stanggt January 17th 2012, 8:58 pm

bigblockfox468 wrote:
stanggt wrote:when u dropped your rack did u have to move it towards the pass side a little so the shaft would clear the upright bar?

Sorry bout the delayed reply.... but no I had plenty of clearance concerning that upright and still do. When we cut and designed that lower k-member cross over we made sure the rack wasn't going to be shifted one way or the other.
I have a QA1 kmember and it looks like compared to yours, my side bars come in a little bit more at the bottom than yours but i can still drop it about 2" it just wont be level with cross bar as i would like. Thats some nice HP that 528 of yours makes. Whats your best time with that so far? I cant wait to run my engine, should be a beast
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