Larry Trimnal aka "Larry T" : WARNING

IDT-572 wrote:

5pointslow wrote:this site is has a good rep in my opinion and why bring this shit on here ? do it on yellowbullet but not here or call him and confront him .

all in all it sucks and not a good situation

cut him some slack............ he is asking for help and guidance from people how may know Larry. It sounder like he was wanting to give him the benefit of the doubt, even as bad as it sounds.

I just hope there is a solution for this deal. Everybody keep a cool head until all the facts are in, your more rational when your temper is in check.

NOS42 wrote:Nobody's forcing you to read it.....are they?

342g wrote:This place is getting as bad as yellow bullet

342g wrote:This place is getting as bad as yellow bullet

bruno wrote:damn ....i wish i knew you were at us43 , would have loved to learn about tuning and getting my shit down the track ...oh and btw welcome to the site and best of luck to both parties

richter69 wrote:I like Yellowbullet..............

Chris E wrote:First off let me introduce myself, my name is Chris Ellington. I have built numerous, record setting, nitrous assisted engines. . .that I have tuned to achieve outstanding records for the classes. My partner, Matt Mungall, aka "Skinnymann" was forced to move to Minnesota for work. With that being said, we were forced to sell our record setting car that currently still holds the world record for a nitrous assisted small block in X275 trim. At that time, I had Mr. Trimnal's car, in which I was also building a big block nitrous assisted ford engine. . .in preparation for the BBF P-51 headed Shootout he was intent on attending at US-43 Dragway in Tennessee. The machining was not done exactly on time. . .I ended up picking up the bare block and heads 48 hours before the day of the US-43 BBF Shootout race. So, that put me assembling the entire engine, installing new nitrous system, and building/fitting new front bumper exiting headers -- all in 48 hours. Larry, who had NO TOOLS, NO BOTTLES, NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHERE TO EVEN BEGIN TUNING A NITROUS ASSISTED CAR OR MSD FOR THAT MATTER. . .I willing offered to take my trailer, which is properly equipped with everything for racing a nitrous assisted car. So after 48 hours of non-stop work, I showered and my fiance drove us the 8 hours to US-43 dragway. During this ride, I received approximately 4 hours of sleep. I am always excited to meet and help out fellow racers (come on guys -- we all know this is a dying sport given the cost it takes to operate a car at this caliber). So in saying this, I did not have a problem going to US-43 with Larry to drive the car for him and do this free of any tuning, travel or trailer usage charge. Larry was kind enough to reserve my fiance and myself a room on his tab. Not having any testing on the car, I was not 100% agreeing on jumping in the middle of a race. Larry was insistent on making the race and the consequence was a hurt motor after the first pass. I admit, none of us were at our best, running on little sleep. . .it did not help things that Larry left the driver side plugs finger tight and I may have not had enough timing out of the motor. . .we torched the head on number 8 cylinder. I then took the head and had it repaired. Larry did pay for the machining of the head and new intake and head gaskets.
I reassembled the engine and put it back in the car in preparation for a local race that I wanted to attend. The week prior to this same race. . .Larry approached me with the proposition of some sort of "partnership". So, with that being said, neither one of us had a problem jumping in the middle of another race. At this point, both of us had the "FUCK IT" mentality --- we were there to race. Being the first P-51 motor I have dealt with, I was going off an equal BB Chevy tune up, and even took a little more timing out than I would have on the BB Chevy. . . but again the P-51's did not like it. So, I had to take the car back to my shop and disassemble the motor for the second time free of charge. All this work to learn that it killed number 8 and lifted 4 more pistons. Never in my professional career as a racer and tuner, had I encountered this many problems. . .especially with a big block. Then, I learn that the pistons in the motor were not suited for nitrous. . .when Larry ordered them he was told they were suitable for nitrous. . .come to find out, the alloy used in their manufacturing (according to the part number) was not in fact suitable for nitrous. We all know you can run nitrous on any piston, but each one is produced to meet the need of different cylinder pressure levels.
So, me and my very close friends, Mr. Gene Fulton, owner of Fulton Racing Engines and Robin Stackpole, owner of RS Performance designed a kick ass set of pistons for this motor, that now have over 80 runs and still look brand new. Larry did pay for these new pistons, rings and some machining out of his pocket. . .so once again, free of charge, I reassemble the engine and install back in the car. Now, with no race pushing us to attend, we go do some testing at a local track I have a yearly contract with. . . with intentions of being prepared for the Civil Wars at Rockingham Dragway X275 class. I discover that the first gear ratio Larry had would be way too radical for 275 radials. So, I offer to use my transmission, which is a Sid Neal, 2-speed, Pro-Mod Glide with a different first gear ratio to calm the car down for the 275 radials. I also borrowed a NOS launcher from a close friend, Donald Banks to use to control the nitrous, since I was approaching 2500 pounds of air on this motor. Results of Rockingham were Semi-Finals. . .not bad for shitty track conditions for a 275 radial. . .and it was the fastest the car had ever been and first time radials had ever been under the car. I was able to pull a 4.97 out of my hat. . .even peddling the car. The greatest outcome was coming home with no hurt parts, even after Larry left the plugs loose for the SECOND TIME.
So, feeling confident in the car, we decide to take the car to South Georgia for Radial Redemption. Given, that earlier this year at Lights Out at South Georgia, skinnyman and myself had set the bar high with a 4.72 @ 148.41 MPH. . .THE FASTEST A NITROUS ASSISTED SMALLBLOCK HAD EVER BEEN ON 275's. . .I was bombarded with calls the week leading up to Radial Redemption asking for me to tune cars when the track opened for testing that Wednesday before the race. I hit the road early, taking along the BBF powered Mustang with high hopes and the understanding that Larry was coming down after work when he got off on Thursday or Friday. During all the chaos, I managed to misplace my phone. . .and after the downpour Thursday . . .I knew that it was a lost cause even searching for it. With this being said, I lost all my contacts and phone numbers, including Larry's. I was expecting Larry to show up sometime no later than Friday. . .but he never showed. Later on, told me he felt he was "uninvited".
After returning home, I got a new phone and discovered that I had no voicemails or text messages from Larry. . .as he usually would have left. So I waited a couple of days for a phone call that I never received. . .so I took it upon myself to call him and ask why he never came down. That is when he said he felt "uninvited" (even though he had hotel reservations). If I had a partner running a car we both had a vested interest in and could not reach him. . .I would have at the least gone to make sure everything was ok. . .but that's just me.
Knowing that I had not seen the car's full potential, I borrowed a rear gear from my friend Donald Banks (whose launcher was already in the car). . . installed the new gear with the intentions of achieving peak performance. Also, my good friend Patrick James, owner of Pro-Systems Carbeurators, sends me a new SV-1 carb to try on the car. So, I install the new carb, that is not mine to keep. . .only to try and send back. Meanwhile, we had a concern about headers. I had T&T Fabrication in Mooresville, NC fabricate a new set of headers that I paid for out of my pocket because Larry told me he had no money. He was well aware that the new headers came out of my pocket. My good friend, Mr. Gene Fulton, had also loaned me 2 nitrous solenoids to see if this helped any. During this same time, I had taken the factory rear suspension out of the car and replaced it with my coil over set up that Larry and I had done trading on from a previous bill he owed me for. During all of these changes as well, I pulled the heads off, suspecting head gasket failure. Larry came down to my shop, uses my shop and my equipment to grind on the exhaust ports of the heads for two days before I put them back on. While replacing the heads, I found one bad rocker arm that neither Larry or I had a replacement for. A fellow racer loaned one to me, with the intentions of it being returned the following Monday (November 12th).
With all the new changes, I go to Shady Side Dragway, a local track this past week on November 9th to test for the Outlaw 275 race being held there November 10th and 11th. Again, this was all out of my pocket. . .trying to prevent engine damage from all the changes.
Saturday, November 10th, I ended up being the #2 qualifier after 2 rounds of qualifying. I parked the car beside my trailer, under my tent and go grab a bite to eat with my fiance. Larry asks me if I was planning on making another test hit, which I replied yes. We go grab our food and come back to the trailer. We were gone for less than 5 minutes total. We return to find that the car was gone along with the 1988 Honda Prelude that Larry drove to ShadySide. We frantically search for the car, thinking we are the subjects of a bad prank. But, when Larry would not answer any calls or texts. . .being as how he was my first contact with the car missing. . .and he and the 3 dumb fucks he showed up with were nowhere to be found. . .I realized that was not the man he claimed to be. Larry had waited for the minute I walked away from the trailer, to drive the car all the way to the main highway with all the parts that four other people and I owned in the amount of upwards of $10,000. . .not including the outstanding debt still owed by Larry for all labor performed prior to our partnership.
It is now approaching November 15th and I still have not been able to get in contact with Larry nor have I recieived any explanation for his actions. Larry Trimnal is a thief. He willfully took my possessions without consent. He even had the audacity to steal my helment. There are numerous other parts that are not included in this amount including bottle warmer, nitrous bottle, nitrous gages, some electronics, all the ballast found in the car, 16 nitrous jets.
So I would like some input from you guys. Anyone in the future to have dealings with this man.....BEWARE!!
If anyone is aware of anything Larry Trimnal is attempting to sell related to racing, please contact me at 828-442-2721. I had no intentions of forming any type of permanent partnership with Larry. This was the last race we were attending this year, and after that I was removing all parts not belonging to Larry off the car and settling up his debt. This was for the fall racing season only. . .and he understood this. I guess that is why he is looking for a transmission. If he makes this right. . .I will let everyone know. But meanwhile, I would like some input from you all on how you would handle this matter. . .because as I see it. . .he stole my shit and isn't planning on returning it.

Chris Ellington
Nitrous Tuning & Engine Performance
828.442.2721


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