Windage tray!!
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Windage tray!!
1984 Ford 460 engine ,whats a good engine oil pan and windage tray stock size crankshaft to buy ? Hows rock auto for stuff Guys? Thanx Mike
madman- Posts : 18
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Re: Windage tray!!
what is it in? Rock auto is to expensive for performance stuff and the vast majority of the empolyees are clueless, your better of buying from vendors here or places like Summit or Jegs.
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dfree383 wrote:what is it in? Rock auto is to expensive for performance stuff and the vast majority of the empolyees are clueless, your better of buying from vendors here or places like Summit or Jegs.
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bbf-falcon- Posts : 8995
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Re: Windage tray!!
The Canton 20-936 fits most pans and has a decent price point.....you will need a mounting kit also.
Thanx But?
Does the windage tray need to be adjusted to each application (probably most semse?) or is there a oil pan I can buy with a windage tray already welded or bolted in place? Thanx Mike (Happy New Year )
madman- Posts : 18
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Re: Windage tray!!
Whats the application? Whats it going in?
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http://www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/oil-pans-individual/oil-pan-usage/off-road?keyword=460%20oil%20pan
Thier are a few decent pans available on the shelf, but none appear to have built in trays, but canton does offer a nice tray like Lem has already said.
Thier are a few decent pans available on the shelf, but none appear to have built in trays, but canton does offer a nice tray like Lem has already said.
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madman wrote:Does the windage tray need to be adjusted to each application (probably most semse?) or is there a oil pan I can buy with a windage tray already welded or bolted in place? Thanx Mike (Happy New Year )
The 20-936 does not require any "adjusting" untill you install one of the longer stroke crankshafts.
Go to the Canton site and take a peek at the tray if you wish.
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ctr-20-936
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Re: Windage tray!!
Is this a performance application? If not the money may be better spent elsewhere.
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Re: Windage tray!!
bigblok2000ranger wrote:Is this a performance application? If not the money may be better spent elsewhere.
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If you are chugging along at 2,000 RPM you don't need a windage tray. If you are turning enough RPM to benefit from a windage tray MPG makes a good one for stoke stroke applications.
As for Rock auto the other problem with them is their multible warehouses. Buy three different parts and find out they come out of three different warehousing and they want to sock you with three shipping charges!
466cj- Posts : 391
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Re: Windage tray!!
If a guy was chugging along at 2000 rpm he'd be better off 'chugging' with a tray that was 1/2 the cost of the MPG unit
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bigblok2000ranger wrote:Is this a performance application? If not the money may be better spent elsewhere.
He did not ask any of us if he needed one....seemed he just wanted to know what was available.
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look at moroso pans with a screen
BOSS 429- Posts : 2372
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That's the best answer but, when I did that 503" deal for that '92 F350 the good pan hit all kinds of stuff when itBOSS 429 wrote:look at moroso pans with a screen
went into the truck. We ended up useing the Mor. 20612 pan that dfree pointed to BUT, being that the pan is 10-3/4" deep and the exh. system on that unit wrapped under the engine at some point, the pan and pickup had to be shortened.....a real pain in butt it was.
Re: Windage tray!!
Lem Evans wrote:bigblok2000ranger wrote:Is this a performance application? If not the money may be better spent elsewhere.
He did not ask any of us if he needed one....seemed he just wanted to know what was available.
You get what you pay for Lem.
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Article on Windage Trays and Mileage
I read on the Internet (???!!!??) that windage tray would help with power losses and mileage a bit. When you drive a F250 Truck with a 460 every bit helps... here gas is 1.23 a litre Sure adds up , Since truck is getting work figured might as well replace the old pan and (looks mighty rusty funny how a OIL pan rusts right out ) Thanx for the replies and help Guys what a great site .
madman- Posts : 18
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Re: Windage tray!!
If your replacing the pan anyway, get a better pan, pick-up and a tray it won't hurt.
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madman wrote:I read on the Internet (???!!!??) that windage tray would help with power losses and mileage a bit. When you drive a F250 Truck with a 460 every bit helps... here gas is 1.23 a litre Sure adds up , Since truck is getting work figured might as well replace the old pan and (looks mighty rusty funny how a OIL pan rusts right out ) Thanx for the replies and help Guys what a great site .
If you read it on the internet then it must be fact Any gains usually are at higher RPM. Look at how many newer OEM engines use one. Given the CAFE numbers OEM's have to meet, if it improved fuel mileage you can be sure every engine would have it and they don't. Personally I think you are just wasting your money.
466cj- Posts : 391
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Re: Windage tray!!
My 03 Taurus w/dohc duratech engine has one.
bbf-falcon- Posts : 8995
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Re: Windage tray!!
I think oil CONTROL is one of the most important issues to address, especially in a BBF, not just to help it make power or better MPG, but to help it LIVE.
And as I once heard an EXPERT engine builder say, "If you don't believe that a flying liquid will slow down a rotating assembly, try tossing a pail of water through a fan."
And as I once heard an EXPERT engine builder say, "If you don't believe that a flying liquid will slow down a rotating assembly, try tossing a pail of water through a fan."
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Re: Windage tray!!
Does anyone know what or if any windage trays work with the Ford Fox 460 swap oil pans?
Thanks Mark.
Thanks Mark.
Mark Miller- Posts : 1959
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Re: Windage tray!!
Mark Miller wrote:Does anyone know what or if any windage trays work with the Ford Fox 460 swap oil pans?
Thanks Mark.
The Canton tray worked in the Cantom pan thats on the Project Cheapskate 466. from my experiance they will fit just about any pan. on strokers and A460 blocks you will need to modify / space the tray.
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Re: Windage tray!!
Dave,
Thanks for the information i have a D1VE Block.
Later Mark.
Thanks for the information i have a D1VE Block.
Later Mark.
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