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Post  torino501 June 12th 2013, 10:43 am

Kicking the idea around on this a460 block.are some better than others?where there production issues I need to look for based on production dates?

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Post  bruno July 3rd 2013, 9:33 am

get it sonic cked ...... just for some peace of mind

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Post  John Myrick July 3rd 2013, 10:38 am

If he is getting a new one from the factory I believe they come with their own sonic sheet
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Post  kim July 3rd 2013, 11:27 am

Mine didn't but we cut most of it out and let fall on the floor anyhow.

Shelf life..... Its Iron, slather it in an oil based coating (cosmoline) and it can sit there forever. Some of the best race blocks in the world came out of junk yards with years of hot cold cycles... and lots of rust... High end shops have a huge HEATED drum they through the things in and tumble them clean. When they come out the parts look like virgin cast iron.

You have to figure up until the very last stock block rolled off the assembly line... 1979 is the last mold date and 1983 the last casting date for stock 460 blocks.

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Post  torino501 July 3rd 2013, 1:17 pm

bruno wrote:get it sonic cked ......  just for some peace of mind
yeah i was more concerned with like core shift or early production issues with certain blocks.you never know how long these things sit on a shelf.

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Post  kim July 3rd 2013, 1:40 pm

The early blocks were fine, and modern blocks were fine. There was an issue with 3rd year or so, where there were a bunch of blocks hitting porosity issues in the cylinder. Stock bore would be fine, but when going out to max bore, some had water leaks. Not something someone coughing up 2500 for a raw block wants to deal with.

Not the end of the world either though, jam a sleeve in the hole with the water leak, and viola.. no problem.

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Post  Lem Evans July 3rd 2013, 2:28 pm

The casting # in the lifter valley and the ser. # will indicate the age of the block.

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Post  BigDave65 July 3rd 2013, 5:18 pm

My block was a brand new in-the-box 1988 casting. I built it in 2001.
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Post  bbf-falcon July 4th 2013, 10:43 pm

Is this an A460 race block like your title says? or just a production block?

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Post  torino501 July 5th 2013, 6:32 pm

Yes it is 18 bolts and all. At this point it doesn't matter. Already got the thing.i was just curious if there where machining or core shift with certain blocks.kinda like a rpm crank vs a scat crank. The rpm crank will get the job done but you have to put a lot of money in it to be right.

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Post  bbf-falcon July 5th 2013, 10:44 pm

The A460 (out of crate) will need to be taken th Machine shop for sure. If you have serial #,Ford can probably get you the sonic sheet.

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Post  Lem Evans July 5th 2013, 10:50 pm

bbf-falcon wrote:The A460 (out of crate) will need to be taken th Machine shop for sure. If you have serial #,Ford can probably get you the sonic sheet.

"The casting # in the lifter valley and the ser. # will indicate the age of the block"
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If I had that info I'd see if there is still a sonic sheet on at FRPP.

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Post  bruno July 6th 2013, 10:52 am

bbf-falcon wrote:The A460 (out of crate) will need to be taken th Machine shop for sure. If you have serial #,Ford can probably get you the sonic sheet.

so every a460 block had a sonic sheet ?

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Post  Lem Evans July 6th 2013, 1:04 pm

Every A460 block is sonic checked but, FRPP does not keep them forever.

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Post  torino501 July 6th 2013, 4:20 pm

so if I get the #'s you can ck it...?

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Post  Lem Evans July 6th 2013, 5:26 pm

Yes.

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Post  torino501 July 6th 2013, 5:54 pm

0H30 in the valley, 11K4916 stamped on a machined spot on the block. the 4916 does match the crate cover though....
I guess these are the #'s.....

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Post  Lem Evans July 6th 2013, 7:32 pm

Looks to be cast Aug. 30 2010......machined in Oct. of 2011 #4916.
 
I'll send a request for the sheet to FRPP.
 
what was the ser. #on the cover box?

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Post  torino501 July 6th 2013, 10:25 pm

wow that pretty cool.thanks lem. the # on the box was 4916

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Post  Lem Evans July 10th 2013, 10:03 am

I've got it....fax number?

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Post  torino501 July 10th 2013, 10:33 am

ck your pm's lem. thank you so much...

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Post  Lem Evans July 10th 2013, 11:23 am

It's sent.

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Post  torino501 July 10th 2013, 12:20 pm

got it. thank you again.

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Post  Lem Evans July 10th 2013, 2:08 pm

It's a nice block.

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Post  torino501 July 10th 2013, 2:52 pm

now that ive got it now what do i do with it....?

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