8.208 @ 165 P-51 Headed Monster
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8.208 @ 165 P-51 Headed Monster
KY Jelly's recent pass ....with very old tires and a fat tune up ...this is all motor guys ......nasty
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Re: 8.208 @ 165 P-51 Headed Monster
that is moving
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Hes Haulin
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hi guys, how much does the car weigh? that thing is flying.
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That's not all it has, I am sure there is more to come.
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deliveredfast wrote:hi guys, how much does the car weigh? that thing is flying.
I believe Randy said it weighs around 2400#. Very impressive performance
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If you listen at the end of that video, you can hear the crowd cheering about the numbers he put up on the board. Later on, one of the girls that was there came over and wanted to take Randy's, and the car's picture, because as she said; "he was the fastest racer here". I chuckled.
His 1/8th mile e.t. was 5.23 on that run I believe, however he has run a couple of 5.15 e.t.s at Beech Bend. At the end of the day, that's not bad for a 562 CID engine with a set of OEM style heads,,,,meaning the P-51 heads.
Meanwhile, Randy's new nickname is "The Velcro Kid".
Uncle Charlie
His 1/8th mile e.t. was 5.23 on that run I believe, however he has run a couple of 5.15 e.t.s at Beech Bend. At the end of the day, that's not bad for a 562 CID engine with a set of OEM style heads,,,,meaning the P-51 heads.
Meanwhile, Randy's new nickname is "The Velcro Kid".
Uncle Charlie
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DAMN !!! That's quick !! Go Get um Randy !! Looks Like Mr. Hobbs is gonna have to step it up a notch or 2 !
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I'm guessing he got the velcro corretcly "engineered" on that run? LOL
Goooooooo Velcro !!!
Goooooooo Velcro !!!
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Re: 8.208 @ 165 P-51 Headed Monster
Thanks guys here is a pic taken by indie images of the first pass with this engine before some suspension de - tuning
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Should have left it alone , I like that look.
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This is for you defree see the hi tec velcro safety strap on the fuel shut off its not latched
KY JELLY- Posts : 1530
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Hey Randy,
What did you do to tame that wheelstand? Move the I.C.
It looked impressive.
Cheers Colin.
What did you do to tame that wheelstand? Move the I.C.
It looked impressive.
Cheers Colin.
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Re: 8.208 @ 165 P-51 Headed Monster
Thanks Colin,
I tightened the extension on the shocks while I was there (when the pic was taken) it helped quite a bit, but I eventually moved the 4 link down a hole at the housing on the top bar later on .
I was not ready for a wheel stand like that the first pass so I was a bit concerned .
A couple of weekends later at the bash the car layed down 3 1.09 60 times, several 1.10's and a 1.11.
After about 30 passes I am suspecting the sidewalls gave up on the tires and it started the spinning. I am too poor to be buying tires every 30 passes so I am just letting it spin until better weather rolls around .
I am going to switch to a d-5 from the d-6 compound and see how that works out.
I tightened the extension on the shocks while I was there (when the pic was taken) it helped quite a bit, but I eventually moved the 4 link down a hole at the housing on the top bar later on .
I was not ready for a wheel stand like that the first pass so I was a bit concerned .
A couple of weekends later at the bash the car layed down 3 1.09 60 times, several 1.10's and a 1.11.
After about 30 passes I am suspecting the sidewalls gave up on the tires and it started the spinning. I am too poor to be buying tires every 30 passes so I am just letting it spin until better weather rolls around .
I am going to switch to a d-5 from the d-6 compound and see how that works out.
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KY JELLY wrote:Thanks Colin,
I tightened the extension on the shocks while I was there (when the pic was taken) it helped quite a bit, but I eventually moved the 4 link down a hole at the housing on the top bar later on .
I was not ready for a wheel stand like that the first pass so I was a bit concerned .
A couple of weekends later at the bash the car layed down 3 1.09 60 times, several 1.10's and a 1.11.
After about 30 passes I am suspecting the sidewalls gave up on the tires and it started the spinning. I am too poor to be buying tires every 30 passes so I am just letting it spin until better weather rolls around .
I am going to switch to a d-5 from the d-6 compound and see how that works out.
So Randy,
It looks like you moved your I.C forward and higher to tame it down, is that correct?
You are making more power than me but I can see some similarities with my set-up.
Just trying to understand what you did because it seemed to work.
Do you know what distance out and height your I.C was, and what it is now after the change.
Cheers Colin.
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The original ic setting was 49.3" @ 5.7" high , it is now at 60.9 @ 5" high.
I moved it down a hole in the rear to try and take away some of the instantaneous "hit" and apply more leverage as it moves out. In theory this is supposed to allow a little tire slippage and then hook it up as it moves out.
The top bar is pulling and the closer the top bar is to the housing the speed of the movement is slowed down due to a leverage disadvantage at the housing brackets. At the same time it puts the bar at a flatter angle to the chassis allowing for a slower more controlled and powerful application of the leverage to go along with increased engine hp/tq. You can't move one end of the bar without effecting the other so it all works together to some point.
I am not a chassis expert , but I have formed some opinions messing with mine and it may not agree with what some people say or believe.
I think the term ic is really meaningless on a 4 link , its just a reference point, its where your pivot point is on a ladder bar so it means more in that situation .
I know everything thing you read points at the imaginary intersect point (ic) , but the truth is that could be the exact same with 2 or more different 4 link settings if the brackets allowed it. How could that act the same way with different bar spreads ? The bars are pulling and pushing at the brackets not the imaginary intersect point.
I still measure and reference the ic , but just to keep tabs on what it does when I move the 4 link. The more I move it the less faith I have in the outward measurement of ic , I think the height is the most important and its a direct result of the top bar placement and the bottom bar angle. In most cases when you get the bottom bar right for the chassis in general you are not going to move it unless the power is really increased and then more than likely it would be done with a ride height change.
I moved it down a hole in the rear to try and take away some of the instantaneous "hit" and apply more leverage as it moves out. In theory this is supposed to allow a little tire slippage and then hook it up as it moves out.
The top bar is pulling and the closer the top bar is to the housing the speed of the movement is slowed down due to a leverage disadvantage at the housing brackets. At the same time it puts the bar at a flatter angle to the chassis allowing for a slower more controlled and powerful application of the leverage to go along with increased engine hp/tq. You can't move one end of the bar without effecting the other so it all works together to some point.
I am not a chassis expert , but I have formed some opinions messing with mine and it may not agree with what some people say or believe.
I think the term ic is really meaningless on a 4 link , its just a reference point, its where your pivot point is on a ladder bar so it means more in that situation .
I know everything thing you read points at the imaginary intersect point (ic) , but the truth is that could be the exact same with 2 or more different 4 link settings if the brackets allowed it. How could that act the same way with different bar spreads ? The bars are pulling and pushing at the brackets not the imaginary intersect point.
I still measure and reference the ic , but just to keep tabs on what it does when I move the 4 link. The more I move it the less faith I have in the outward measurement of ic , I think the height is the most important and its a direct result of the top bar placement and the bottom bar angle. In most cases when you get the bottom bar right for the chassis in general you are not going to move it unless the power is really increased and then more than likely it would be done with a ride height change.
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Russ , I'm about $20,000 or so away from being able to compete with this bad boy!! I can't say it won't ever happen...but it ain't lookin good right nowRapidRuss wrote:DAMN !!! That's quick !! Go Get um Randy !! Looks Like Mr. Hobbs is gonna have to step it up a notch or 2 !
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Thanks Randy, good info.
Cheers Colin.
Cheers Colin.
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56Tbird wrote:Russ , I'm about $20,000 or so away from being able to compete with this bad boy!! I can't say it won't ever happen...but it ain't lookin good right nowRapidRuss wrote:DAMN !!! That's quick !! Go Get um Randy !! Looks Like Mr. Hobbs is gonna have to step it up a notch or 2 !
Well Dan..i dont know about you being $20K away as your Hotrod gets ur dun too.. But i was just so suprised at it being P-51 headed and with the 1.09 60 footers.. at a buck 65.. and there's more in it !! Damn
I'am just glad he still lets us talk to him
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just to up date you guys due to my stupidity and hard headiness This run was made with a 100% no doubt leaking head gasket .
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KY JELLY wrote:just to up date you guys due to my stupidity and hard headiness This run was made with a 100% no doubt leaking head gasket .
Even more impressive. That car is a 60 footing b*itch! I'm jealous!
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It does leave hard ,but tends to slow down very quickly when it gets close to the wall or even when it bounces off it Wait till he gets er sealed up!! He scares me shitless just watching him
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KY JELLY,
Do your homebuilt headers have a BBF flange on them or is it a BBC flange with adapters? Thanks
Do your homebuilt headers have a BBF flange on them or is it a BBC flange with adapters? Thanks
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Re: 8.208 @ 165 P-51 Headed Monster
Thanks Lem.
In case you were wondering I'm the same Brad B who ordered the p51s from you last week, I recieved them on friday. Those are nice lookin units
On the other forum I am "hookedonpullin", but ya know what, thats to much to type.
In case you were wondering I'm the same Brad B who ordered the p51s from you last week, I recieved them on friday. Those are nice lookin units
On the other forum I am "hookedonpullin", but ya know what, thats to much to type.
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