This months carcraft mag.Has the new AFR heads in it

I was ready to throw this months car craft in the trash until I turned to page 28 there I found seven pages of info on the AFR 460 heads .One thing I liked was the c j exhaust pattern so you don't need new headers .But these heads do require a new intake since the intake ports are rectangle instead of the round shape we are all used to .They will offer three intake port cc 270-315 and 335 .In the article it says flow rates are 392 cfm @ 600 lift on the intake and272@600 on the exhaust .Price wise $2099 .Don't take my word for this look at the magazine article .I might just come out of retirement for a set of these they look promising .Doug

SO ... when does the public consumer actually have them in his hands...?

When I witness the first pair actually running on an engine out in the general public then and only then will I take them seriously.

I agree with Randy, but here's a YouTube link I stumbled upon looking for something else ... LOL!

Interesting for sure ...

https://youtu.be/RYEtgI6rgmI

Why wouldn't anyone take AFR seriously? We should be glad they are participating in the game

NOS42 wrote:Why wouldn't anyone take AFR seriously?  We should be glad they are participating in the game

I saw a set at PRI.......

dfree383 wrote:

NOS42 wrote:Why wouldn't anyone take AFR seriously?  We should be glad they are participating in the game

I saw a set at PRI.......

Me too...

I actually called them right after I posted the link, and they said the heads are slated to be in public hands by the end of this year, as well as the intake ... The heads are piston specific similar but not the same as the SCJ/P51's ... The guy I spoke to said AFR is very excited about these heads ... He said the "estimated" pricing is in the article, which I haven't found a copy of yet... They DO sound like they're gonna make some great power ... I guess we'll see ... Maybe by the time my chassis is ready, these heads/intake will be ready... I'll be a guinea pig ...    

"END of this year" ?
I rest my case ... because, I saw them at the 2012 IMIS trade show over a year and a half ago.

I am sure this will happen EVENTUALLY but, don't hold your breath..

I believe the 315 & 335 were BBC heads they were comparing with

ThndrChkn wrote:I actually called them right after I posted the link, and they said the heads are slated to be in public hands by the end of this year, as well as the intake ...  The heads are piston specific similar but not the same as the SCJ/P51's ... The guy I spoke to said AFR is very excited about these heads ... He said the "estimated" pricing is in the article, which I haven't found a copy of yet...  They DO sound like they're gonna make some great power ... I guess we'll see ...  Maybe by the time my chassis is ready, these heads/intake will be ready...  I'll be a guinea pig ...    

"With pricing starting at $2,099, AFR's big-block Ford cylinder head will be one of the most affordable 429/460 options on the market."

this is getting good! and my bbc friends are getting scared!  

http://www.stangtv.com/features/pri-coverage/pri-2014-afrs-big-block-ford-heads-have-chevy-compatibiliy/

Think I just might try a set one day

Well I walked by their display booth and they had the same head on display as they did this time last year. To the best of my knowledge, here we are one year later and no progress has been made towards them actually being in production.

Charlie

copy and paste from the linked article

“We have plans to introduce two new 285cc versions, one with standard exhaust height and one with 2.50-inch raised exhaust. There will also be 300cc versions, one with 2.50-inch raised exhaust, and one with 6.25-inch raised exhaust.”

Gonna be some funny looking heads with the exhaust raised 2.5 inches not to mention 6.25 inches.

lghting94 wrote: copy and paste from the linked article

“We have plans to introduce two new 285cc versions, one with standard exhaust height and one with 2.50-inch raised exhaust. There will also be 300cc versions, one with 2.50-inch raised exhaust, and one with 6.25-inch raised exhaust.”

Gonna be some funny looking heads with the exhaust raised 2.5 inches not to mention 6.25 inches.  

....maybe should be .250 and .625 inches?

That's what I am thinking just found it funny when I read it

lghting94 wrote: copy and paste from the linked article

“We have plans to introduce two new 285cc versions, one with standard exhaust height and one with 2.50-inch raised exhaust. There will also be 300cc versions, one with 2.50-inch raised exhaust, and one with 6.25-inch raised exhaust.”

Gonna be some funny looking heads with the exhaust raised 2.5 inches not to mention 6.25 inches.  

I was thinking the same thing.

Article:

http://airflowresearch.com/articles/article222/A-P1.html

Good reading. Looks like a good head.

I read that article and then went to their site.
Nothing in their parts section listing anything related to those BBF heads.
All they show is the scanned pages of the CC article as posted above  ^^

What I am curious about is that "special" intake that is required.
Seems  only theirs will  fit the heads ??

Could be a huge deal breaker for some people, even if they get the cost on the heads down.

83-88T-Bird Guy wrote:I read that article and then went to their site.
Nothing in their parts section listing anything related to those BBF heads.
All they show is the scanned pages of the CC article as posted above  ^^

What I am curious about is that "special" intake that is required.
Seems  only theirs will  fit the heads ??

Could be a huge deal breaker for some people, even if they get the cost on the heads down.

They changed the port shape to make it better (In their opinion) which requires the necessary intake. Personally I don't understand why people build their engine around one component they may have like an intake manifold. If an intake manifold is a deal breaker then these heads are probably going to be too expensive anyways. There are plenty of good new and used heads out there that are available for that market. I think of it more like switching to an A head.  It requires a different intake because it is better and that is just the reality of it.

Just got off the phone with AFR. Here's the latest:

Should be able to order by the end of the month. 3-4 week build time.

Price:

270cc with stock exhaust ports 2170/pair assembled for solid cam up to .850 lift.

285cc with exhaust raised .250 2799/pair assembled for solid cam up to .850 lift.

300cc with exhaust raised .625 are not finalized yet.

Single plane 4150 intake is 319.00.

Dual plane and 4500 intake to follow this year.

Test mule for the 270 and 285 head was a Ford Racing 521. Slightly better than 11:1 compression. Cam was over .700 lift and over 270 duration at .050. Both heads made over 700HP.

285cc head flows 320's@.400 and 411@.700 intake, 285@.700 exhaust.

You will have to flycut your pistons until the manufacturers catch up. AFR has sent there specs. to all the major piston makers.

I want a set NOW!

Sounds like about the same as most other heads.....

Dave, my P-51's were close to that out of the box on the intake side but nowhere near those numbers on the exhaust side. Remember, it's not all about flow numbers. I've yet to see a out of the box Kaase headed small stroker motor with lower compression(11:1) and a mild cam(270 duration) make over 700HP. That's a pump gas motor. Have you? Interested in knowing what you've seen. Thanks, Frank.

http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/1502-how-to-install-a-700-hp-supersized-stroker-budget-build/

I found this build interesting.