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Post  J R August 12th 2009, 8:43 pm

Me an my granddad are building a 86 mustang (outlaw 10.5) an we can not figure witch cam an the best heads are.it's a 460 based 4bolt main block an going to a 514.
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Post  dfree383 August 12th 2009, 8:46 pm

You'll need to post a bunch more about what your looking to do and what you have already. How much HP you looking for? How heavy's is the car? How fast do you want to go?
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Post  bruno August 12th 2009, 8:53 pm

JR welcome to the site

I would be very specific and post your build , the more information the better , also f you have flow numbers that would be great if you can post those .....


another thing you can do is give Lem Evans a call at BF Evans Race parts he is the cam guru for BBF's here is his phone number B.F.Evans Race Parts : 1-877-611-2613 Toll Free 1-270-278-2376 International

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Post  J R August 12th 2009, 9:00 pm

dfree383 wrote:You'll need to post a bunch more about what your looking to do and what you have already. How much HP you looking for? How heavy's is the car? How fast do you want to go?
3200LB car so we can race in the class,hp wise bout 1800,about 170mph in the 1/8 an about 200 to 210 in a 1/4.
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Post  dfree383 August 12th 2009, 9:03 pm

Definetly doable but not cheap....... Are you going to build the motor yourself or have someone it for you? What do you have for a chassis? Trans?
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Post  J R August 12th 2009, 9:09 pm

bruno wrote:JR welcome to the site

I would be very specific and post your build , the more information the better , also f you have flow numbers that would be great if you can post those .....


another thing you can do is give Lem Evans a call at BF Evans Race parts he is the cam guru for BBF's here is his phone number B.F.Evans Race Parts : 1-877-611-2613 Toll Free 1-270-278-2376 International
were thinking on the heads 2.35/1.88 but will that be enough flow.
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Post  J R August 12th 2009, 9:11 pm

dfree383 wrote:Definetly doable but not cheap....... Are you going to build the motor yourself or have someone it for you? What do you have for a chassis? Trans?
25.2 cage trans powerglide with stright cut gears
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Post  c.evans August 12th 2009, 9:59 pm

With a Procharger, you are going to need a set of heads that breathes very well on the exhaust side. IMO that means you will need at least the an A-460 head, the Ford C-460 head, or the Profiler # 205 head. Any of the OEM style heads are going to be too restrictive on the exhaust side of a blown engine. If you choose the A-460 heads, I would get the 18 bolt TFS A-460 heads, because the 18 bolts give you a better clamoing force on the head gasket. The Ford C-460 and the Profiler heads are 18 bolt heads.

Next off, you need to forget about the stock 4 bolt CJ block and go with an aftermarket block such as the Ford SVO A-460, or the Eliminator block.

Hope this helps,

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Post  Outlaw5.0 August 13th 2009, 6:21 pm

Charlie Evans is correct. I would use the Eliminator block and Blue Thunder Thor heads. You will have more than enough torque, so a 4.00 or 4.250 crank is advisable. I would also cut .100-.200 from the deck, just don't cut into the upper bellhousing bolt bosses.

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Post  J R August 13th 2009, 6:53 pm

Can not really afford a aftermarket block right now.
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Post  Outlaw5.0 August 13th 2009, 7:59 pm

J R wrote:Can not really afford a aftermarket block right now.
Well you need for leave the F-3 build for later, a stock block will not hold up to 1700-2500hp, depending on which F-3 you use.

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Post  bruno August 13th 2009, 8:57 pm

Outlaw5.0 wrote:
J R wrote:Can not really afford a aftermarket block right now.
Well you need for leave the F-3 build for later, a stock block will not hold up to 1700-2500hp, depending on which F-3 you use.

x2 .... baby steps ...... you might need to let us know what you budget is for the whole project .. and let us help you distrubute the funds properly ...... i think the F-3 needs to be for the future ......

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Post  richter69 August 13th 2009, 8:59 pm

If a block is too much then you might rethink your goals a bit..............you are not headed down the cheap path.
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Post  darrin1999 August 15th 2009, 1:20 am

richter69 wrote:If a block is too much then you might rethink your goals a bit..............you are not headed down the cheap path.
+2... a stock block is only good to 800 hp reliably regardless of the stock block. if you want more power than that you need to either get an aftermarket block or accept that the stock block will break... probably on short order... and destroy most of the other parts inside. build it once right with an aftermarket block, or build it once wrong, blow it up, and spend three times as much building it right the second time. jmo

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Post  bruno August 15th 2009, 7:21 am

JR if you dont mind me asking what is the fastetst drag car you have been in ?? your answer is going to lead up to my next statement Very Happy

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Post  bruno August 15th 2009, 7:22 am

JR if you dont mind me asking what is the fastetst drag car you have been in ?? your answer is going to lead up to my next statement Very Happy

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Post  Old blue Racin Team August 15th 2009, 8:34 am

What are you double dipping for post count nick you posted it twice man Twisted Evil Twisted Evil affraid affraid
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Post  bruno August 15th 2009, 10:52 am

Old blue Racin Team wrote:What are you double dipping for post count nick you posted it twice man Twisted Evil Twisted Evil affraid affraid

sorry Wink

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Post  J R August 15th 2009, 12:43 pm

bruno wrote:JR if you dont mind me asking what is the fastetst drag car you have been in ?? your answer is going to lead up to my next statement Very Happy
never drove one,we use to have a baby promod probe,we crunk it up but never ran it cause my grandmom got really sick an that was in the mid 90s so we had to get rid of it.when we got mustang in 04 she got sick again so we had to put that on hold till last year.well she passed in april this year,so to say the least we have been around racing our whole lives.
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Post  canzus August 15th 2009, 3:21 pm

Oh boy...
This can't end well...
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Post  bruno August 15th 2009, 4:04 pm

J R wrote:
bruno wrote:JR if you dont mind me asking what is the fastetst drag car you have been in ?? your answer is going to lead up to my next statement Very Happy
never drove one,we use to have a baby promod probe,we crunk it up but never ran it cause my grandmom got really sick an that was in the mid 90s so we had to get rid of it.when we got mustang in 04 she got sick again so we had to put that on hold till last year.well she passed in april this year,so to say the least we have been around racing our whole lives.

and thats the reason why i asked the question ....... when i first started this drag racing hobby of mine i saw a car about 7 years ago it was a black notch and it ran 4.9x and that was fast for the times and i wanted to build a car like that well for one i got put in my place rather quickly ........ it takes dollars ..and i mean lots of dollars ......... but besides the monitary aspect of the game is you got to crawl before you walk and you got to walk before you run ...... we are all in agreence on your deal and f2 with any kind of high flow head would be insane ... so i think you are doing the right thing by regrouping on you idea maybe focus on get 700 - 800hp first get the chassis lined out and then start building another mill .... good luck and its all about being safe in these fast cars Very Happy

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Post  OldRedFord August 16th 2009, 7:46 pm

Hey J R, where around Atlanta are you from? If you dont mind me asking.
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Post  J R August 16th 2009, 8:24 pm

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Post  J R August 16th 2009, 8:27 pm

We are getting a aftermarket block,I will have a lot more ?s now.
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Post  bruno August 16th 2009, 8:58 pm

J R wrote:We are getting a aftermarket block,I will have a lot more ?s now.

good choice JR

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