Scorpion 1024 vs 1056?

Scorpion 1024 vs 1056 ? What’s the difference there catalog doesn’t say

I've read the 1056 has a larger body and requires less shimming,, but same as you, I couldnt get any real info

I’m buying pushrods anyway so do I need to worry about shims?

When you order the push rods call Smith Brothers they will build you any length you need . I will only buy my push rods from them now on.

http://351c.net/board/index.php?/topic/3732-confused-about-scorpion-pedestal-mount-roller-rockers/

There are some really inexperienced people over on that forum.

I made a last minute decision change.. I ordered the crane stud kit 52655-16 and a set of comp 17045-16 rockers.
I have done pushrod length plenty of times and it will just be better for me.

racinghabbit wrote:I made a last minute decision change.. I ordered the crane stud kit 52655-16 and a set of comp 17045-16 rockers.
I have done pushrod length plenty of times and it will just be better for me.

Good luck ... it is less sturdy than the bolt down rocker system but, it will be more adjustable.

Anything has to be better than the failed stock rockers, that sent tons of metal threw the lower end and taking out my bearings

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I had these on my daughters 429 Fox body. I was skeptical of them, but she put a rod through the side of the block before any of the rocker studs failed.

Wayne (SAWDOFF) Pearce

There noisy! I used a very similar setup on a small block a few years back and had the same issue.. seems like the pushrod and that plastic guide make the noise. But functions great

racinghabbit wrote:Anything has to be better than the failed stock rockers, that sent tons of metal threw the lower end and taking out my bearings

TOto strong of a spring for the factory stamped rockers.

I ran this same set up on my old 351c only problem i had was keeping the studs tight. Even with the red loctite they would still work loose.

69F100 wrote:I ran this same set up on my old 351c only problem i had was keeping the studs tight. Even with the red loctite they would still work loose.

Same here had them on my 460 with D3VE heads a long time ago and also had the studs coming loose!!!

how did you notice there was an issue?

Lifters would get noisey or it would start skipping and bend a push rod
I always kept a extra push rod in the glove box with allen wrench and a 5/8 end wrench fix it on the side of the road

racinghabbit wrote:Scorpion 1024 vs 1056 ? What’s the difference there catalog doesn’t say...I made a last minute decision change...I ordered the crane stud kit 52655-16 and a set of comp 17045-16 rockers...it will just be better for me. Anything has to be better than the failed stock rockers, that sent tons of metal through the lower end and taking out my bearings

I don’t know the details of your current engine build, just want to emphasize that when properly set up and optimized the OEM pedestal rocker arm valve train has numerous attributes over the aftermarket rocker arms and stud system you are considering instead.  I’ve known the OEM stamped steel rocker D3 valve train to be used successfully (and long term) in engines wth cams over 0.600” lift. And I don’t think I’d do that with the Crane stud conversion kit.  Again, it really depends on the details and needs of the build.

Mark Miller wrote:

69F100 wrote:I ran this same set up on my old 351c only problem i had was keeping the studs tight. Even with the red loctite they would still work loose.

Same here had them on my 460 with D3VE heads a long time ago and also had the studs coming loose!!!

what did were you guys tq the studs to?

BOSS 429 wrote:

Mark Miller wrote:

69F100 wrote:I ran this same set up on my old 351c only problem i had was keeping the studs tight. Even with the red loctite they would still work loose.

Same here had them on my 460 with D3VE heads a long time ago and also had the studs coming loose!!!

what did were you guys tq the studs to?

I don't remember this was probably in the early 90's and if the Crane Conversion gave a torque rating that's probably what I torqued them too!!

BOSS 429 wrote:

Mark Miller wrote:

69F100 wrote:I ran this same set up on my old 351c only problem i had was keeping the studs tight. Even with the red loctite they would still work loose.

Same here had them on my 460 with D3VE heads a long time ago and also had the studs coming loose!!!

what did were you guys tq the studs to?

Medium low tight with a 1/2" drive.

i put mine at 25ftlb with red lock tight.