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Post  Nevs February 28th 2010, 2:27 pm

chuck wrote:I'll never build another set with out them.

That's one of those "why didn't I think of that" deals! I love the idea of no slag on the inside of the tubes. Has to help, and inexpensive too.
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Post  DILLIGASDAVE March 1st 2010, 7:12 pm

I can see where those "weld rings" might come in handy when Mig welding the thin wall header tubing so there's no slag buildup inside the tube. But I doubt they would really be beneficial when Tig welding. This is because the weld ring it's self would most likely be a larger restriction inside the tube than a proper sized Tig puddle ever could be.
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Post  chuck March 1st 2010, 7:57 pm

You don't have to use any filler rod, when tig weld is used. Plus when your fitting them up on the car they will hold the tubes together with out a tack weld most of the time. If you ever try them, I think you'll like them.

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Post  DILLIGASDAVE March 1st 2010, 10:20 pm

chuck wrote:You don't have to use any filler rod, when tig weld is used. Plus when your fitting them up on the car they will hold the tubes together with out a tack weld most of the time. If you ever try them, I think you'll like them.
I have seen them, I still like my way better. The splits in the weld rings can sometimes create alignment problems if a header tube's weld joint is cut from the bend section of a tight J-bend vs a straight section.
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Plus the "no filler rod needed" thing is not going to be much help when Tig welding if your wanting silicon/bronze as the filler material at the weld joint instead of having 100% steel filler material. And when all is said & done the ring it's self is still an added restriction inside the tube vs no ring at all.

In my opinion simple hose clamps with 3, 4, or 5 holes drilled around them are the best alignment tool. The drilled holes provide convenient "windows" to tack weld the tube joint with a steel filler rod. Then you remove the hose clamps & finish up the welding with a silicon/bronze rod.
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Post  chuck March 1st 2010, 11:03 pm

Thanks for the idea, I'm always willing to learn!

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