crank pilot delemma

If my crank pilot is 1.850" and a torque converter says 1.375 crank pilot, can I use the torque converter?

Nope. But check your crank for both. It could have both 1.85 and 1.35 or 1.25. 1.25 is not a factory converter size.

How does that work? I'm getting an Eagle crank and they said its 1.850". The torque converters I keep finding are 1.375" pilot.

I'm getting one of these and they are the same -one is cut 10 under
http://www.eaglerod.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21&Itemid=32
part # 104603850
part # 104603850M10

And I want to get this converter.
http://mustangsunlimited.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=26062+01

You will need a converter for the early crank pilot diameter. '68 to '71 c-6.

What is the pilot diameter anyways? And in other words, I'm screwed price wise.

I'll have to go with the one I was originally going to get.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HUP-35-25/

Years ago you used to be able to get slip-on adapter bushing rings to adapt the smaller OD pilot up to the bigger OD hole. Check with some of the converter makers, they still might offer them.

I think the silly thing is you buying a stock stroke aftermarket crank, when the factory is a much stronger and better piece all together.... but to each his own....



Randy

i had a tci with the 1.850 and it was just a ring on the smaller one.i ground the weld off it and pulled it off and used it behind a 400m.all converters are not that way but you could make a ring to go on it very easy.

the Coug wrote:I think the silly thing is you buying a stock stroke aftermarket crank, when the factory is a much stronger and better piece all together.... but to each his own....



Randy

I started with a 429 and I can't find a stock 460 crank for sale. I don't want to buy one from some one over a website like this either, not saying this forum is bad I just like to buy in person.

bb429power wrote:

the Coug wrote:I think the silly thing is you buying a stock stroke aftermarket crank, when the factory is a much stronger and better piece all together.... but to each his own....



Randy

I started with a 429 and I can't find a stock 460 crank for sale. I don't want to buy one from some one over a website like this either, not saying this forum is bad I just like to buy in person.

So buying the Eagle crank is "buying in person" ? I'm confused...I'd take a chance on a factory crank before I'd buy the Eagle any day. But like Randy said, to each his own...your money.

No, I don't like buying USED parts unless its in person. From a factory I'm okay with. But I CAN NOT find one for crap and wish I could.

bb429power wrote:No, I don't like buying USED parts unless its in person. From a factory I'm okay with. But I CAN NOT find one for crap and wish I could.

Well, if you think that factory Eagle crank is going to be dead nuts perfect, good luck with that. Best thing you could do is take it out of the shipping box and take it to a reputable crank grinder to verify it is even round. But, your mind is made up, so good luck and don't say we didn't tell you so.

I am definantly going to mic. it, and if I need to I will cut it. I already had that in mind. But you know what, I first thought that Eagle was a top brand and one of the very best. Now I know they are far from it. Thank you so much for your help but I don't think what I'm doing will be enough to do that kind of damage. I feel like I'm constantly on everyone's nerves with my build and I don't want to be.

Thank you for helping, I mean it.

...you live in Plymouth MI... and you cant find a used 460 crank? this is the motor city... there are TONS of junk yards in Detroit, some are "you pick", others you can buy the specific parts from the counter... every time I go to the you picks (like parts galore on 8 mile n hoover or livernois & warren) I see several late 70s fords/merc/lincolns with 460s in them, that would make great cores to do a rebuild off...

I also see 460s for sale all over craigs list.

Shane

the Coug wrote:I think the silly thing is you buying a stock stroke aftermarket crank, when the factory is a much stronger and better piece all together.... but to each his own....



Randy

Yep....we alll know that ALL Eagle stuff is crap. Thanks for helping the guy out.

I finally found a stock 460 crank, does anyone know what the crank pilot would be on it?

fordman460 wrote:Nope. But check your crank for both. It could have both 1.85 and 1.35 or 1.25. 1.25 is not a factory converter size.

Gotta measure it, Dude. You got calipers or a snap gauge?

No, but I have the biggest micrometer they make. It goes to 3 inches, its the biggest I've seen. But I can take it to my machinists shop as he has the tools, I'm actually getting the crank through his friend. How could it be both? Inside and outside diameters, is that what your talking about?

Thanks

bb429power wrote:No, but I have the biggest micrometer they make. It goes to 3 inches, its the biggest I've seen. But I can take it to my machinists shop as he has the tools, I'm actually getting the crank through his friend. How could it be both? Inside and outside diameters, is that what your talking about?

Thanks

They are stepped.

The two different sizes are also different depths. 1.85 is shallow and the 1.35 is deeper. There are cranks with both 1.85 and 1.35. Also cranks with 1.85 and 1.25. The 1.25 is not a "true" pilot size but some companies sell converters for it.
By the way, outside mics get pretty darn big. I have a set up to 6" and I have seen one for 24"!
I hope you aren't pulling my leg with the biggest I've seen statement. Just trying to help!

I have a set of 36" and I think there is a set of 48" here in the shop.... so not the biggest by any reach......


I am glad you found a stock Crank, not to be an A$$ but I know you will be happier and it more than likely will be in speck, I have a new Eagle forged and before I even think about it, it gets Major check out.......


Randy

fordman460 wrote:By the way, outside mics get pretty darn big. I have a set up to 6" and I have seen one for 24"!
I hope you aren't pulling my leg with the biggest I've seen statement. Just trying to help!

Holy crap! I've never seen them that big! I will google it asap. I want to see what these monsters look like. You are helping, a lot. Thank you so much for helping me understand this, you and the other people who have helped. I learned some new things today, thank you very much.

the Coug wrote:I am glad you found a stock Crank, not to be an A$$ but I know you will be happier and it more than likely will be in speck, I have a new Eagle forged and before I even think about it, it gets Major check out.......


Randy

Tisk tisk tisk, Eagle cranks are crap. You shouldn't use it since the stock crank is much better. I'm just pullin your leg. Thanks for the help, you weren't being a pain. One thing I'm wondering about is that I have Eagle rods and a crank in my 351w, are they good or not. I'm pretty sure they were taken to the crank shop through my builder. But is that bad that they are Eagle? Aren't there rods bad too?