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Post  jbozzelle April 2nd 2010, 11:23 pm

I thought I remember reading that one would. Am I correct in my thinking?

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Post  adrenaline269 April 2nd 2010, 11:34 pm

yes that is what I use in mine. I had read somewhere that you have to adjust the length but when i put mine side by side at too measurements they where identical but that was my experience.

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Post  torkair April 2nd 2010, 11:55 pm

No, a winsor dizzy will not swap. Now cleveland stuff, that stuff WILL swap!
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Post  cool40 April 2nd 2010, 11:58 pm

yes it will swap,just change the gear.it will swap without changing the gear but it wont run very long.dont ask me how i know Laughing
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Post  Lem Evans April 3rd 2010, 12:40 am

Yep...needs a 429/460 gear.

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Post  fatal addiction April 3rd 2010, 7:48 am

i thought the oil pump shaft was smaller on a windsor?? eric
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Post  David Cole April 3rd 2010, 9:50 am

Both the 460 and 351W use a 5/16" oil pump shaft. The 302/289 uses 1/4"
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Post  bbf-falcon April 3rd 2010, 10:27 am

Change the gear and good to go Very Happy

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Post  jbozzelle April 3rd 2010, 1:00 pm

Thankd guys. That's one more thing off of the list.

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Post  powerstrokeace April 3rd 2010, 2:54 pm

So I could take a 8580 msd and put a Windsor gear on it and use it in a 351?


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Post  c.evans April 3rd 2010, 7:28 pm

powerstrokeace wrote:So I could take a 8580 msd and put a Windsor gear on it and use it in a 351?


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Yes, that's correct. In fact the MSD distributor # 85805 is listed for the 351W, and both it and the 8580 are listed in the catalog as having the same dimensions. Both are 6" from the top of the cap, to the mounting surface flange.

The Windsor steel gear is listed as pn#85852

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Post  Maddmattmustangs April 3rd 2010, 8:09 pm

Never heard of a 351W dizzy in a 429... good to know.
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Post  jbozzelle April 3rd 2010, 9:08 pm

c.evans wrote:
powerstrokeace wrote:So I could take a 8580 msd and put a Windsor gear on it and use it in a 351?


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Yes, that's correct. In fact the MSD distributor # 85805 is listed for the 351W, and both it and the 8580 are listed in the catalog as having the same dimensions. Both are 6" from the top of the cap, to the mounting surface flange.

The Windsor steel gear is listed as pn#85852

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Isn't the Duraspark 351W dizzy shorter than the 460 Duraspark dizzy?

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Post  res0rli9 April 3rd 2010, 11:16 pm

jbozzelle wrote:
c.evans wrote:
powerstrokeace wrote:So I could take a 8580 msd and put a Windsor gear on it and use it in a 351?


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Yes, that's correct. In fact the MSD distributor # 85805 is listed for the 351W, and both it and the 8580 are listed in the catalog as having the same dimensions. Both are 6" from the top of the cap, to the mounting surface flange.

The Windsor steel gear is listed as pn#85852

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Isn't the Duraspark 351W dizzy shorter than the 460 Duraspark dizzy?


I thank thats what Lem said. but I mite be wrong

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Post  rmcomprandy April 3rd 2010, 11:38 pm

The Windsor and 385 distributor housings are the same size ... the 351M / 400 is slightly shorter although it can be used because the gear is the same as a 385.

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Post  c.evans April 4th 2010, 12:54 am

Guys, I went through a bunch of them, both the Motorcraft Duraspark distributors, and the MSD distributors. My purpose in doing so was to try to find which one a guy could use with the new style TFS tunnel ram, without going to the MSD crank trigger deal.

In general, the shortest Motorcraft Duraspark I found was a stock 429/460 Ford distributor. In the case of MSD distributors, it's reversed. The MSD #8577 listed for the 429/460 is the tallest MSD distributor at 8.75", and probably taller than it needs to be in most all applications.

Getting back to the new style TFS tunnel ram deal, you can use a stock rebuilt 429/460 Motorcraft distributor, with one of my cap adapters that I make, and a Mallory # 221 crab cap, and have clearance under the tunnel ram. If you look at the thread called Keown's Bad-ass Truck and a picture of the engine Bob has put together, you will see the Mallory crab cap deal setting under the TFS tunnel ram.https://www.429-460.com/general-discussion-f5/keown-s-bad-ass-truck-t4005-15.htm


Hope this helps,

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Post  bbf-falcon April 4th 2010, 5:03 am

Once it is installed in a 429 it is a 429 dizzy,then when you put it in a 460,it's a 460 dizzy. I have a 514 dizzy in LiL Tweety lol!

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Post  rmcomprandy April 4th 2010, 9:54 am

c.evans wrote:Guys, I went through a bunch of them, both the Motorcraft Duraspark distributors, and the MSD distributors. My purpose in doing so was to try to find which one a guy could use with the new style TFS tunnel ram, without going to the MSD crank trigger deal.

In general, the shortest Motorcraft Duraspark I found was a stock 429/460 Ford distributor. In the case of MSD distributors, it's reversed. The MSD #8577 listed for the 429/460 is the tallest MSD distributor at 8.75", and probably taller than it needs to be in most all applications.

Getting back to the new style TFS tunnel ram deal, you can use a stock rebuilt 429/460 Motorcraft distributor, with one of my cap adapters that I make, and a Mallory # 221 crab cap, and have clearance under the tunnel ram. If you look at the thread called Keown's Bad-ass Truck and a picture of the engine Bob has put together, you will see the Mallory crab cap deal setting under the TFS tunnel ram.https://www.429-460.com/general-discussion-f5/keown-s-bad-ass-truck-t4005-15.htm


Hope this helps,

Charlie

If Charlie is correct then different applications of the Duraspark 385 distributors and different applications of the 351M / 400 Duraspark distributors are different lengths so it is to be the correct length to fit THAT particular factory application.
What it comes down to for the housing length IS - does it clear the manifold and other components being used, anything else is immaterial.

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Post  res0rli9 April 4th 2010, 5:45 pm

c.evans wrote:Guys, I went through a bunch of them, both the Motorcraft Duraspark distributors, and the MSD distributors. My purpose in doing so was to try to find which one a guy could use with the new style TFS tunnel ram, without going to the MSD crank trigger deal.

In general, the shortest Motorcraft Duraspark I found was a stock 429/460 Ford distributor. In the case of MSD distributors, it's reversed. The MSD #8577 listed for the 429/460 is the tallest MSD distributor at 8.75", and probably taller than it needs to be in most all applications.

Getting back to the new style TFS tunnel ram deal, you can use a stock rebuilt 429/460 Motorcraft distributor, with one of my cap adapters that I make, and a Mallory # 221 crab cap, and have clearance under the tunnel ram. If you look at the thread called Keown's Bad-ass Truck and a picture of the engine Bob has put together, you will see the Mallory crab cap deal setting under the TFS tunnel ram.https://www.429-460.com/general-discussion-f5/keown-s-bad-ass-truck-t4005-15.htm


Hope this helps,

Charlie

Thanks for the info Charlie, but dose it make a diff. what year it is. I need one like that to clear my roots blower.

Thanks Keith

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Post  rmcomprandy April 4th 2010, 8:28 pm

It will usually depend upon the intake manifold used, not the blower.

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Post  557 mazda April 24th 2010, 6:31 pm

Hey Mr.c evans will the distributor go in with out pulling the intake.. I will be needing a adapter to mount the cap.. Ill call lem on monday. thanks for imfo.
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Post  bbf-falcon April 24th 2010, 7:02 pm

Lem doesn't have the adapter,Uncle Charlie does Smile And I have one in my stash in the trailer Very Happy

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Post  557 mazda April 24th 2010, 7:49 pm

Would you part with it Laughing
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Post  557 mazda April 25th 2010, 8:42 am

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