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Question for Adney Brown
Was just watching my 2007 Tech DVD and caught something that applies to what I worked on today. You were talking about straightening shafts (cam and crank).
I have a 2 3/4" axle shaft made of 4140 steel. It will go in my tractor rear. The first one I was able to modify and have finished, but this one has about .030 run out at the center where the bearing sets. The finished surface on the outer length is indicating the high point is about centered in the shaft, but the rest of the shaft is unfinished, so I'm unable to prove exactly where that point is. In the video you were peening shafts to straighten them. Seems like a stupid question, but which side(low or hi) were you peening to move the shaft? I have been unable to move this at all in a good press, so I need to do something else or buy a different shaft. Any good idea's? Thanks.
Perry Hanlin
I have a 2 3/4" axle shaft made of 4140 steel. It will go in my tractor rear. The first one I was able to modify and have finished, but this one has about .030 run out at the center where the bearing sets. The finished surface on the outer length is indicating the high point is about centered in the shaft, but the rest of the shaft is unfinished, so I'm unable to prove exactly where that point is. In the video you were peening shafts to straighten them. Seems like a stupid question, but which side(low or hi) were you peening to move the shaft? I have been unable to move this at all in a good press, so I need to do something else or buy a different shaft. Any good idea's? Thanks.
Perry Hanlin
hpwdboss1- Posts : 147
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Re: Question for Adney Brown
Although it seems counter intuitive, you apply the piening to the LOW side. As the HIGH side is longer...you are stretching the short (low) side to make it longer and, therefore, match the HIGH side.
Re: Question for Adney Brown
Pretty interesting... So you want to peen it until you actually make a dent or dimple in it?
Does it actually make it longer overall to a point where it's actually noticeable or measureable?
I've seen guys peen cranks in old diesels (large CID, slow speed) while they are still in the blocks. They use peening and heat...
Does it actually make it longer overall to a point where it's actually noticeable or measureable?
I've seen guys peen cranks in old diesels (large CID, slow speed) while they are still in the blocks. They use peening and heat...
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Re: Q for Adney
Thanks Chuck. I kinda' gathered that was what Adney was saying, but I thought I'd get the question out where someone could confirm / deny the thought. This forum is great stuff!
Thanks again.
Perry Hanlin
Thanks again.
Perry Hanlin
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Re: Question for Adney Brown
I sent Adney a message, maybe he'll chime in.
Glad the Tech Seminar DVD helped. Lots of valuable information
Glad the Tech Seminar DVD helped. Lots of valuable information
D. Sea- Posts : 2768
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good question
Obviously it came from the factory that way , if the flange where it meets the hub has no runout , and the splined area has no run out then it must have come through that way .. if you are resplining it , then yes you better look for a different shaft .. as far as peening , if you could peen it straight then the flange would have runout ,.. find a new one .. if the flange has runout now , then practice your peening skills by starting on the low side ..........
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Thanks to MR Brown
The hub has runout as it is, so I think the shaft was bent. However, I have worked on it and was able to get it to move back toward straight, but never got it there. So I now have two different axles to start on monday AM. One of them will surely be straight! Thanks for the help, got to get back on the milling machine, season starts soon!
Thanks again!
Perry
Thanks again!
Perry
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