Project Blown Hemi

a few mock up pics engine assembly going together.

Pardon my stupid question, but why does the timing cover and block have that section off to the right? Is that something for an external style oil pump? I've never seen a block like that before nor have I seen a timing cover like that. I just want to learn something Looks like some baaaaad azzzzz hp waiting to happen

bb429power wrote:Pardon my stupid question, but why does the timing cover and block have that section off to the right? Is that something for an external style oil pump? I've never seen a block like that before nor have I seen a timing cover like that. I just want to learn something Looks like some baaaaad azzzzz hp waiting to happen

that is the drive for the external dry sump pump and the mag drive. You'll see when we get it closer to done and I post more pics. This mock up was to get the push rod length. Got them on the way.

Block was made that way, its an aluminum Carol Carter block.

thats not a bad question, in the early 80s when these were first cast it was there for the offset mag drive,all gear driven under the cover





-rich

bb429power wrote:Pardon my stupid question, but why does the timing cover and block have that section off to the right? Is that something for an external style oil pump? I've never seen a block like that before nor have I seen a timing cover like that. I just want to learn something Looks like some baaaaad azzzzz hp waiting to happen

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58446157@N03/5364262751/

Oh, I see. Thanks, I understand it now. It looks like a pretty cool setup.

Short Bock finished.



offset mag drive


Distributor plug. in house made. has oring.

Larry D Sr checking manifold fit.

looken good Jerry! the push rods look kinda small.

Hey, Jerry: Who's the manufacturer of that front crank support, or is that a custom piece?

Wayne (SAWDOFF) Pearce

Crank Support is RCD.

Pump extension is Brad Anderson Eng.

Hello again, Jerry: I've been to the RCD Engineering website, and they don't list a crank support for a Ford application. Is their website listing out of date, or did you modify one from another application? If you modified one of them, which one, and how difficult was it to accomplish? I'm in the planning stages of a blower motor, and because mistakes are so damned expensive, I want to do it right the first time, and with the long snout on Ford crank shafts - the crank support has to be a wise addition.

Wayne (SAWDOFF) Pearce

Wayne Pearce wrote:Hello again, Jerry: I've been to the RCD Engineering website, and they don't list a crank support for a Ford application. Is their website listing out of date, or did you modify one from another application? If you modified one of them, which one, and how difficult was it to accomplish? I'm in the planning stages of a blower motor, and because mistakes are so damned expensive, I want to do it right the first time, and with the long snout on Ford crank shafts - the crank support has to be a wise addition.

Wayne (SAWDOFF) Pearce

actually Wayne I think I have what you need. Before I went with this set up I was going to use a SVO block and a Crank with a Ford size snout.

It kind of depends on your block and crank. Let me know what you are running.

I have an extra RCD Crank support and hub adapter for a Ford ( size snout )Crank
Inside diameter is Ford, outside diameter fits the inside of the crank support bearing on the RCD crank support.

Seldom is ANY of thise stuff plug and play ( bolt on )
the one you see in the pic, the stand off's had to be shortened and then the inside threads re-drilled and tapped.

you MIGHT have to do that also ( no biggie to do ) depending on your crank nose length.

if you have the long one you may not have to do anything.

Placement of the crank support bearing on the snout is important of course.

Hey, Jerry: When I said I was in the planning stages, I mean't that I'm in the preliminary stages - I haven't anything yet as far as a block, or parts. I was hoping to latch onto a certain aftermarket block, but the owner can't make up his mind whether to sell it or not. I'm also pressing a local guy to sell me the D0VE-A block he has, but he want's waaaay too much for it! I was considering using a Scat billet 4.5 stroker with the standard factory snout, 6.8 H beam rods, and as of yet undecided on the bore. I'm presently running a 13.3 to 1 545 D0VE-A normally aspirated, but want to keep that engine intact, so I will be starting from scratch. If I were to buy the crank support set up that you mentioned, I would probably have to modify it as well because I will be using a motor plate, and yes - I capable of performing any modifications that it might require. If you prefer, you could PM me about what you would want for it, and give me any particulars about it. I look forward to hearing from you again soon.

Wayne (SAWDOFF) Pearce

What blower and hat are your planning to use???

Saw your already changed the crank pulley for a bigger one...

Frank

Frank Kramer wrote:What blower and hat are your planning to use???

Saw your already changed the crank pulley for a bigger one...

Frank

Me or Wayne?

Wayne Pearce wrote:Hey, Jerry: When I said I was in the planning stages, I mean't that I'm in the preliminary stages - I haven't anything yet as far as a block, or parts. I was hoping to latch onto a certain aftermarket block, but the owner can't make up his mind whether to sell it or not. I'm also pressing a local guy to sell me the D0VE-A block he has, but he want's waaaay too much for it! I was considering using a Scat billet 4.5 stroker with the standard factory snout, 6.8 H beam rods, and as of yet undecided on the bore. I'm presently running a 13.3 to 1 545 D0VE-A normally aspirated, but want to keep that engine intact, so I will be starting from scratch. If I were to buy the crank support set up that you mentioned, I would probably have to modify it as well because I will be using a motor plate, and yes - I capable of performing any modifications that it might require. If you prefer, you could PM me about what you would want for it, and give me any particulars about it. I look forward to hearing from you again soon.

Wayne (SAWDOFF) Pearce

if it were me Id get at a minimum the scat crank with the shorter boss nose. the shorter nose is the way to go. Bigger diameter is great, but the length is what kills the Stock style crank. Blower belt pulls on it and the longer the crank nose is the more leverage the belt has on the crank to break it off.

Really it would be great to buy the best crank you can afford also. Forged would be great, billet even better.

Mine has a Bowtie nose and mopar rod journels with a mopar flywheel flange. Ford mains

Id buy the best block that you could afford. At a minimum use the SVO block, if you can swing an IDT or aluminum one... even better.

If you decide to use a short boss nose, my old set up will work for your crank support. the actual crank support will work for other crank snouts but the hub adapter wont, the inside ID is Ford.

If you use a standard front block, you will have to make the RCD bearing cradle bolt up to the motor plate, which means you might have to shorten the leegs on it and re tap the holes.

very badd azzzzz

jsracing wrote:

Frank Kramer wrote:What blower and hat are your planning to use???

Saw your already changed the crank pulley for a bigger one...

Frank

Me or Wayne?

Yours Jerry....

blower is a 14-71 Hi Helix Littlefield done by Oddy's, it has the delta opening up front/bottom. We will set it back some, not alot.
the hat is a buzzard castcher.

Bad Ass!!

QtrWarrior wrote:Looking good Jer..
Just might have to get me one of those....

You can have this one for the right $$ Mike ... jus sayin

Very nice!!!!!!! I wish I could get you a nice used billet blower to go on there that wasn't hardcoated. The straight alky deals don't like bare aluminum