old syle aluminum cj heads
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old syle aluminum cj heads
where would i find what these flow out of the box and ported?
new2460- Posts : 195
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Re: old syle aluminum cj heads
Are you talking about the A429 heads?
D. Sea- Posts : 2768
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yes the ones before the kaase scj's
yes a429's. those are the ones before the kaase scj's correct.
new2460- Posts : 195
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Re: old syle aluminum cj heads
Their are some numbers on here, or you can try Stan Wiess's web site.
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Re: old syle aluminum cj heads
I have A429's on my car. Results in the engine build section
D. Sea- Posts : 2768
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Re: old syle aluminum cj heads
Here's some info from the archives.
Aluminum Edelbrock, A429, and TFS CJ Head Flow Numbers
Edelbrock RPM CJ Head
Courtesy of ScottJ
Out of the box
.100 - 82/64 78%
.200 - 156/110 70%
.300 - 225/155 68%
.400 - 279/182 65%
.500 - 323/200 61%
.600 - 341/214 62%
.700 - 347/212 61%
.800 - 350/212 60%
Stage 2 intake and exhaust port
.100 - 79/64 81%
.200 - 153/114 74%
.300 - 225/161 71%
.400 - 278/192 69%
.500 - 324/215 66%
.600 - 353/240 67%
.700 - 365/248 67%
.800 - 380/250 65%
Ford A429 Aluminum CJ Heads Flow Numbers
Courtesy of Brenden Howe
These are from my old style TFS CJ heads that Kaase did a few years ago.
2.25 Intake, 1.75 Exhaust
.300=245/172
.400=308/203
.500=350/228
.600=375/241
.700=395/244
.800=401/246
Courtesy of David S
2.25 Intake, 1.76 Exhaust
Lift=Valve lift while testing
Previous CFM = Original flow
Current CFM = Flow after porting % Gain=flow improvement in percent
Exhaust/Intake = Relationship between intake & exhaust flow
Intake Port Test Results
Lift Previous CFM Current CFM % Gain Exhaust/Intake Ratio
0.050 50.3 49.6 -1.4 69.0
0.100 88.2 82.3 -6.8 80.4
0.200 143.6 142.6 -0.7 85.5
0.300 199.1 202.0 1.5 87.1
0.400 254.0 264.4 4.1 76.2
0.500 291.2 317.1 8.9 72.6
0.600 308.2 348.4 13.0 72.6
0.650 317.1 361.8 14.1 70.7
0.700 321.6 370.7 15.3 69.0
0.750 321.6 379.7 18.3 67.4
Exhaust Port Test Results
Lift Previous CFM Current CFM % Gain Exhaust/Intake
0.050...40.6 34.2 -15.7 69.0
0.100...72.5 66.1 -8.8 80.4
0.200..115.5 122.8 5.6 85.4
0.300..158.9 176.0 10.8 87.1
0.400..166.4 201.6 21.2 76.2
0.500..188.8 230.4 22.0 72.6
0.600..193.6 252.8 30.6 72.6
0.650..195.2 256.0 31.1 70.7
0.700..195.2 256.0 31.1 69.0
Aluminum Edelbrock, A429, and TFS CJ Head Flow Numbers
Edelbrock RPM CJ Head
Courtesy of ScottJ
Out of the box
.100 - 82/64 78%
.200 - 156/110 70%
.300 - 225/155 68%
.400 - 279/182 65%
.500 - 323/200 61%
.600 - 341/214 62%
.700 - 347/212 61%
.800 - 350/212 60%
Stage 2 intake and exhaust port
.100 - 79/64 81%
.200 - 153/114 74%
.300 - 225/161 71%
.400 - 278/192 69%
.500 - 324/215 66%
.600 - 353/240 67%
.700 - 365/248 67%
.800 - 380/250 65%
Ford A429 Aluminum CJ Heads Flow Numbers
Courtesy of Brenden Howe
These are from my old style TFS CJ heads that Kaase did a few years ago.
2.25 Intake, 1.75 Exhaust
.300=245/172
.400=308/203
.500=350/228
.600=375/241
.700=395/244
.800=401/246
Courtesy of David S
2.25 Intake, 1.76 Exhaust
Lift=Valve lift while testing
Previous CFM = Original flow
Current CFM = Flow after porting % Gain=flow improvement in percent
Exhaust/Intake = Relationship between intake & exhaust flow
Intake Port Test Results
Lift Previous CFM Current CFM % Gain Exhaust/Intake Ratio
0.050 50.3 49.6 -1.4 69.0
0.100 88.2 82.3 -6.8 80.4
0.200 143.6 142.6 -0.7 85.5
0.300 199.1 202.0 1.5 87.1
0.400 254.0 264.4 4.1 76.2
0.500 291.2 317.1 8.9 72.6
0.600 308.2 348.4 13.0 72.6
0.650 317.1 361.8 14.1 70.7
0.700 321.6 370.7 15.3 69.0
0.750 321.6 379.7 18.3 67.4
Exhaust Port Test Results
Lift Previous CFM Current CFM % Gain Exhaust/Intake
0.050...40.6 34.2 -15.7 69.0
0.100...72.5 66.1 -8.8 80.4
0.200..115.5 122.8 5.6 85.4
0.300..158.9 176.0 10.8 87.1
0.400..166.4 201.6 21.2 76.2
0.500..188.8 230.4 22.0 72.6
0.600..193.6 252.8 30.6 72.6
0.650..195.2 256.0 31.1 70.7
0.700..195.2 256.0 31.1 69.0
schmitty- Posts : 4538
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THANKS
thanks. i just bought some that are ported. i'm replacing a set of dooe-r with these. i'm hopeing to gain a little from my iron ones plus i'm saving weight.
new2460- Posts : 195
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Re: old syle aluminum cj heads
A lot of what could be gained or lost as far as performance will depend on the abilities of the person who ported them. Spend a little money and get a qualified person to flow test them.
schmitty- Posts : 4538
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heads by rick
heads by rick did them. what does it cost to have a head flowed?
new2460- Posts : 195
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Re: old syle aluminum cj heads
Shouldn't be much, pocket change really. Sometimes they'll do it for a 6 pack and a $20
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Re: old syle aluminum cj heads
typicaly under a $100 as long as they are clean and disassembled.
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Re: old syle aluminum cj heads
Remember 2460, those heads are a set of the "clippers" you will be held back with valve size.
You will pick up over Iron CJ's though, don't sweat it.
You will pick up over Iron CJ's though, don't sweat it.
Snowball Racing- Posts : 85
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Re: old syle aluminum cj heads
Snowball Racing wrote:Remember 2460, those heads are a set of the "clippers" you will be held back with valve size.
You will pick up over Iron CJ's though, don't sweat it.
it depends what serial # they are as for clipping valves....
Randy
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cant wait to install them
i'm just excited. i cant wait to get them on and running. these are my first pair of aluminum heads also i just want to know what they flow
new2460- Posts : 195
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they dont clip anymore
they have been fixed and dont clip anymore
new2460- Posts : 195
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Re: old syle aluminum cj heads
trust me Randy, they are clippers, but they have been turned down, and I have been 9.02 @ 148 @ 2650lbs.
He will be pleased
He will be pleased
Snowball Racing- Posts : 85
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Re: old syle aluminum cj heads
Actually, (a lot of people don't realize this), those heads all have identical intake ports but, the reason for the "clipping" is that the exhaust valve major angle is 14°, (instead of the normal 15°), and thus the need to run a slightly smaller valve. However, this makes the exhaust port different and is also very slightly better flowing.
2.200" intake valve and a 1.760" tulip exhaust valve works awfully well in those heads.
2.200" intake valve and a 1.760" tulip exhaust valve works awfully well in those heads.
Re: old syle aluminum cj heads
new2460 wrote:i'm just excited. i cant wait to get them on and running. these are my first pair of aluminum heads also i just want to know what they flow
What is the motor your sticking the Heads and Intake on.
they are going on
a .060 460, h-beam rods, arias forged pistons, balanced, .660 lift solid roller cam, victor intake, 1050 dominator, 2 1/8 headers. thanks
new2460- Posts : 195
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Re: old syle aluminum cj heads
Bring 'em to the BBF Bash and sweet talk Uncle Charlie or Mike, maybe he will put them on the flow bench for ya' Or just drop them off and have them shipped back to you...
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