Race Engine Weights

Guys,

I've been doing some checking lately, with an very accurate and zeroed 1000 lb scale, of the BB Ford engines we've had going on the dyno lately. All engines were weighed without flexplate or starter, but with oil, carb and etc . In other words I've made sure that the comparisons are valid.

1. Bobby's engine. DOVE-A block, 4.442" X 4.500" = 559 CID, Milodon splayed 4 bolt main caps, P-51 heads, Victor, single 1250 QFX carb, Mezeire electric water pump. 600 lbs.

2. Mike's engine. FRPP SVO block, 4.420" X 4.300" (I think? Lem?), P-51 heads, Victor, single QFT carb, water pump. 641 lbs.

3. Todd's engine. FRPP SVO block, 4.600" X 4.500"= 598 CID, TFS A-460 heads, TFS 2 X 4 tunnel ram manifold, two QFT 1150 carbs, Mezeire electric water pump, Moroso vacuum pump, dry sump pump and lines, Peterson dry sump tank, & nitrous plumbing. 735 lbs.

4. Jeff's engine. DOVE-A block, 4.440 X 4.500"= 557 CID, short fill HardBlok, Milodon splayed 4 bolt main caps, TFS A-460 heads, TFS single four intake manifold, alum. mechanical water pump, single QFT carb. 627 lbs.

I hope this is helpful,

Charlie Evans

great info Charlie

Very interesting Charlie. What is the weight diff between a hard blocked (Bare)DoveA w/billet 4 bolt main caps. And a A460 (Bare) w/same bore?

OR What is the weight of a A460 bare block?

Looks like I should come in around 735 eh!

bbf-falcon wrote:Very interesting Charlie. What is the weight diff between a hard blocked (Bare)DoveA w/billet 4 bolt main caps. And a A460 (Bare) w/same bore?

OR What is the weight of a A460 bare block?

Rick,
My old Dove block filled to the water pump holes, but with only 2 bolt mains and bored to 4.440 weighed 234.
My new A-460 block weighs 290 as it came from Lem, have not had it bored yet to see what the weight difference would be. Hopefully in a few weeks I will know the difference in weight.

I know the intake from trick flow is a heavy piece .esp when you put a hat on it.
I always wondered about weight UMMMM seems about the same as bbc
I get so sick of hearing that thing has to be heavy. And then they change a little
when you tell them you have over 500 cid in a stock block without grinding on it

At last.....A guy who ain't just guessing. That's really useful info as I build my car. Thanks, Charlie.

Block Weights

2-bolt D9TE-AB 4.36 bore = 229 lbs

2-bolt D9TE-A2 4.39 bore = 221 lbs

2-bolt C8VE 4.36 bore = 206 lbs

2-bolt C9VE-B 4.36 bore = 210 lbs

2-bolt D1VE-A2B 4.36 bore = 223 lbs

2-bolt D1VE-A2B 4.39 bore filled = 245 lbs

2-bolt D0VE 4.36 bore = 219 lbs

2-bolt D0VE 4.440 bore = 204 lbs

4-bolt D0VE-A block = 221 lbs

A460 block, factory rough undersize bore = 302 lbs

A460 block, 4.473" bore, roller cam brgs = 265 lbs

A460 block, 4.625" bore, roller cam brgs, unfilled with caps = 255 lbs

A460 block, 4.634" bore, roller cam brgs, filled to deck with caps = 268 lbs

Nice, Nick. Much obliged.

c.evans wrote:Guys,

I've been doing some checking lately, with an very accurate and zeroed 1000 lb scale, of the BB Ford engines we've had going on the dyno lately.

and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, no dyno numbers?????

Yes, we've got tons of dyno numbers, but that wasn't the subject of this thread. Furthermore, there are some dyno numbers that we keep to ourselves, or only share with our good customers like you.

I'll start another thread sometime soon and share some numbers.

Charlie

You da man Uncle Charlie!

Good stuff to know.

Nobody has #s on IDT blocks?

deliveredfast wrote:Nobody has #s on IDT blocks?

I would think Chuck Stevens might.

We should make this thread a sticky..................

richter69 wrote:We should make this thread a sticky..................

Should maybe include all the bbf blocks in if you do But good idea sir

we get some pictures posted.. I'll personally make it sticky

138 wrote:we get some pictures posted.. I'll personally make it sticky

HeHe,that pic w/reg. bracket is now sticky

Awsome post Charlie Thanks for taking the time

This is the Greatest Website ever.

Very interesting thank you .

"2. Mike's engine. FRPP SVO block, 4.530" X 4.300" (I think? Lem?), P-51 heads, Victor, single QFT carb, water pump. 641 lbs."
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If you are refering to Mike M's engine...the bore is but 4.420". So it didn't have much wt. bored out of it.
I really don't know were the 300# + wts. for the as delivered A460 blocks comes from. We got two in tuesday, both blocks including their crates and the pallet they both were straped to were less than 600#. I suspect the 290# that Rick qouted is closer to correct.

Okay Lem, thanks for the correction. I'll go back and change the bore size in the original post.

Charlie

IDT Premier with 4.650 bore = 254#

Older A460 with 4.650 bore and filled to bottom of water pump holes = 265#

A460 block with TFS A460 heads, TFS cast tunnel ram, CSR water pump, Peterson Wide Vac pump, Danny Bee belt drive, steel oil pan, complete engine(4.65x4.15) less carbs was 655#

Weighed all of these a couple years ago on one of my chassis scales. Hope this helps

Brian