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IS a windage tray a waste of money?

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Post  racinghabbit July 14th 2011, 3:52 pm

IS a windage tray a waste of money?
on a 545 engine with high compression ?
7000rpm
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Post  richter69 July 14th 2011, 3:59 pm

more of a nessesity...........
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Post  racinghabbit July 14th 2011, 4:03 pm

what brand windage tray?
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Post  dfree383 July 14th 2011, 4:09 pm

Canton makes a nice one.

MPG also offers one too.

And yes, one is manditory IMO unless the pan is equiped with one built in.
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Post  racinghabbit July 14th 2011, 4:11 pm

will they clear a 4.5 crankshaft?
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Post  dfree383 July 14th 2011, 4:19 pm

yes

http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=20-936

http://mpgheads.com/black_max.php
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Post  racinghabbit July 14th 2011, 4:36 pm

what about an oil pan to match it..
rear sump
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Post  racinghabbit July 14th 2011, 4:45 pm

how do you guys feel about milodon??

30570 pan
32227 windage tray
18451 pickup
22040 dipstick

this is in my ford race truck
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Post  dfree383 July 14th 2011, 4:47 pm

Thats good stuff, Moroso and Canton also make pans you may want to look at.
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Post  racinghabbit July 15th 2011, 2:13 am

any other opinions?
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Post  Curt July 16th 2011, 9:07 pm

racinghabbit wrote:any other opinions?

I think the general opinion was answered in post #2. clown
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Post  PaulS July 20th 2011, 5:29 pm

racinghabbit wrote:any other opinions?

You need to use either a windage tray or a scraper to keep the oil from attaching to and remaining on the turning crank. Of the two the windage tray is less expensive but the scraper is more effective. The windage tray is the minimum.

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Post  Scott Foxwell July 23rd 2011, 10:51 pm

If you're talking about the flat windage trays that bolt to the bottom of the mains, they really do more harm than good. They reflect most of the oil back on the crank causing more aeration and parasitic drag, and they also prevent oil from getting back to the pan where it belongs. You're honestly better off without one. Windage trays or screens belong down in the bottom of the pan as far away from the crank as they can get. Scrapers are a good and effective means of getting oil off the crank and back in the pan.

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Post  StickBBF July 30th 2011, 9:17 am

Doesn't a main cap girdle (halo) also assist in cutting down the oil whip, windage? confused

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Post  rmcomprandy July 30th 2011, 9:52 am

racinghabbit wrote:IS a windage tray a waste of money?
on a 545 engine with high compression ?
7000rpm

That really depends upon the oil pan underneath it.

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Post  dfree383 July 30th 2011, 10:25 am

StickBBF wrote:Doesn't a main cap girdle (halo) also assist in cutting down the oil whip, windage? confused

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Not realy....... thier are still big openings in the useless pieces or plate that allow alot of splash..... so in conclusion they aren't even good to help reduce windage and oil control either.... cheers
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Post  rmcomprandy July 30th 2011, 11:36 am

PaulS wrote:
racinghabbit wrote:any other opinions?

You need to use either a windage tray or a scraper to keep the oil from attaching to and remaining on the turning crank. Of the two the windage tray is less expensive but the scraper is more effective. The windage tray is the minimum.

Yes ... a scraper is most effective of removing oil from the spinning rotating assembly however, it also costs the most power.

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Post  StickBBF July 30th 2011, 12:27 pm

dfree383 wrote:..... so in conclusion they aren't even good to help reduce windage and oil control either.... cheers
I take it you are of the opinion that main cap girdle/halos serve no meaningful purpose? scratch study

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Post  dfree383 July 30th 2011, 1:09 pm

StickBBF wrote:
dfree383 wrote:..... so in conclusion they aren't even good to help reduce windage and oil control either.... cheers
I take it you are of the opinion that main cap girdle/halos serve no meaningful purpose? scratch study

The Commercialy avaliable ones that do not contact the center of the cap are useless and a waste of money. if you want one to hold a windage tray.... its just an expensive bracket.
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Post  Barry_R August 6th 2011, 3:27 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:Yes ... a scraper is most effective of removing oil from the spinning rotating assembly however, it also costs the most power.

Ain't it fun when you actually test things? You learn not to believe half the stuff you read - and to question the rest...

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