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Post  powerstrokeace November 12th 2011, 8:50 pm

Ok just got done tearing this motor down and I figured out the ring size is .043, 1/16 and 3/16. So now what kind of ring is most commonly used for a drag race application? I was looking at JE web site and they have 6 different top ring styles. Not trying to be cheap but My machine shop charges out the Azz for parts these days. I build a 347 last year for a friend and they charged me $300 for a ring set affraid

Thinking this is the ring package that best suites my needs? Please correct me if I'm wrong
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/JEP-J2000845605/

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Post  Lem Evans November 12th 2011, 9:34 pm

4.560" 043." - 1/6" - 3/16" ring set at my place is $159.95.

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Post  powerstrokeace November 12th 2011, 9:39 pm

Lem Evans wrote:4.560" 043." - 1/6" - 3/16" ring set at my place is $159.95.
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Is that a file fit ring? I'll be on the phone monday. What kind of rod and main bearing are you selling now? I'll have the crank out sunday. Billet Scat with no center counter weights

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Post  Lem Evans November 12th 2011, 9:41 pm



"Is that a file fit ring?"

Of course.


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Post  Curt November 12th 2011, 11:12 pm

Lem Evans wrote:

"Is that a file fit ring?"

Of course.


Do you have any that I could just use my fingernail clippers? scratch
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Post  DanH November 13th 2011, 7:19 pm

Ace , bore size plus you need to know the radial before ordering a ring set

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Post  Lem Evans November 13th 2011, 7:44 pm

DanH wrote: Ace , bore size plus you need to know the radial before ordering a ring set

Good point and that was gonna be my 1st question if/when I talked to him.....the part # he referenced was a D-wall set.

Ace, what Dan is addressing is......are the top two rings .170"ish or .210"-212"ish inside to out?
D-wall is the thicker stuff.

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Post  powerstrokeace November 14th 2011, 1:12 am

Lem Evans wrote:
DanH wrote: Ace , bore size plus you need to know the radial before ordering a ring set

Good point and that was gonna be my 1st question if/when I talked to him.....the part # he referenced was a D-wall set.

Ace, what Dan is addressing is......are the top two rings .170"ish or .210"-212"ish inside to out?
D-wall is the thicker stuff.

Just measured them and I'm coming up with .206-.207 ish

I haven't got the crank out because I don't have 1/2" 12 point 1/2" drive to break the outer main bolts loose. I'll get one tomorrow and then call you mid week. I have this older SVO A460 block and have no idea what the min bolts torque to or the 12 point 1/2" bolt torque to.

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Post  Lem Evans November 14th 2011, 10:10 am

main bolts 105# w/oil.

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Post  powerstrokeace November 14th 2011, 11:36 am

what about the small er splayed bolts?

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Post  Lem Evans November 14th 2011, 11:38 am

powerstrokeace wrote:what about the small er splayed bolts?

Ace
They are all 1/2" thread.......105#

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Post  powerstrokeace November 19th 2011, 3:31 pm

Radial Measurement .206-.207 ish. What I found on the JE site is .212-.210. Do I need to check the depth of the ring land as well to make sure this will work. Hell there JE Pistons in the thing. Or could the have been worn that much? Lem looks like the have to be Dropped shipped From Akrely & Childs

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Post  Lem Evans November 19th 2011, 3:41 pm

At any rate the pistons you have are for the Dwall ring.......they'd be .170" if they were the back cut style.

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Post  rmcomprandy November 19th 2011, 5:24 pm

powerstrokeace wrote:Ok just got done tearing this motor down and I figured out the ring size is .043, 1/16 and 3/16. So now what kind of ring is most commonly used for a drag race application? I was looking at JE web site and they have 6 different top ring styles. Not trying to be cheap but My machine shop charges out the Azz for parts these days. I build a 347 last year for a friend and they charged me $300 for a ring set affraid

Thinking this is the ring package that best suites my needs? Please correct me if I'm wrong
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/JEP-J2000845605/

Ace


ONLY $300.00 for an entire ring set...?
.8 mm top compression rings are $67.00 EACH.

I guess it all depends upon the level of what you wish to accomplish.

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Post  Mark O'Neal November 21st 2011, 1:54 pm

Curt wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:

"Is that a file fit ring?"

Of course.


Do you have any that I could just use my fingernail clippers? scratch

You have to use toenail clippers. Fingernail clippers have too much curvature.

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Post  dfree383 November 21st 2011, 2:13 pm

Mark O'Neal wrote:
Curt wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:

"Is that a file fit ring?"

Of course.


Do you have any that I could just use my fingernail clippers? scratch

You have to use toenail clippers. Fingernail clippers have too much curvature.
cheers Laughing Laughing
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Post  Curt November 21st 2011, 2:15 pm

Mark O'Neal wrote:
Curt wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:

"Is that a file fit ring?"

Of course.


Do you have any that I could just use my fingernail clippers? scratch

You have to use toenail clippers. Fingernail clippers have too much curvature.

My wife says I use them to cut everything except fingernails! Smile She would accuse me of fitting pistion rings with them as well. Suspect
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Post  Lem Evans November 21st 2011, 2:41 pm

powerstrokeace wrote:Radial Measurement .206-.207 ish. What I found on the JE site is .212-.210. Do I need to check the depth of the ring land as well to make sure this will work. Hell there JE Pistons in the thing. Or could the have been worn that much? Lem looks like the have to be Dropped shipped From Akrely & Childs

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Rings are in stock at my place.

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Post  powerstrokeace November 21st 2011, 3:27 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
powerstrokeace wrote:Radial Measurement .206-.207 ish. What I found on the JE site is .212-.210. Do I need to check the depth of the ring land as well to make sure this will work. Hell there JE Pistons in the thing. Or could the have been worn that much? Lem looks like the have to be Dropped shipped From Akrely & Childs

Ace

Rings are in stock at my place.

Are you sure? Shawn told me they would have to be dropped shipped. 4.560 bore .210-212 radial d-wall. I tried calling 2 time and both time I guess shawn's been busy. Wanted to get this going to day and get the block over to the machine shop tomorrow,

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Post  Lem Evans November 21st 2011, 3:55 pm

I don't care what Shawn told you.....they are here Smile

270-278-2376 or give me a # and i'll call you.

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Post  powerstrokeace November 21st 2011, 4:05 pm

Lem Evans wrote:I don't care what Shawn told you.....they are here Smile

270-278-2376 or give me a # and i'll call you.


Thats funny sh*t there! Razz
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Post  powerstrokeace November 22nd 2011, 2:24 pm

Lem
Got a hold of Shawn today and got things handled. The Cam gear that was on this motor was not machined down and you could see the grind marks on the gear and the cam thrust cover as well. I'm glad you brought that up yesterday becasue this is where the metal in the engine came from.


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Post  Lem Evans November 23rd 2011, 11:43 am

Cool glad it worked out for you.

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Post  nuclearcobra November 26th 2011, 10:41 am

powerstrokeace wrote:Ok just got done tearing this motor down and I figured out the ring size is .043, 1/16 and 3/16. So now what kind of ring is most commonly used for a drag race application? I was looking at JE web site and they have 6 different top ring styles. Not trying to be cheap but My machine shop charges out the Azz for parts these days. I build a 347 last year for a friend and they charged me $300 for a ring set affraid

Thinking this is the ring package that best suites my needs? Please correct me if I'm wrong
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/JEP-J2000845605/

Ace

No you let them charge your friend $300 for a ring set Laughing
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