I just wanna say for the ones that are gonna try to run x275 and compete ... i wish i had your pockets !!!

X275 .....


Im heading to the shakedown in englishtown nj friday ....the cool air will be there and will be some fast times for sure

Rich Bruder has already gone 4.55 !!!!!!!!!!!! Do the math at the weight and HP !!!!!!!!!! Freakin crazy !


This Class is going in the direction of being in the same conversation of 10.5 outlaw , Maybe im just plane out right jealous ,but to run a package and be able to hook that power on that tire

bruders have there shit together , they will slow down next year with the new rules , but we will see by how much ...they have deep pockets .......

im not an expert but what kinda of hp we talking here close to 2,000 hp correct ??? with power adder

5pointslow wrote:im not an expert but what kinda of hp we talking here close to 2,000 hp correct ??? with power adder

for me to be the front runner at a big event i need 1200 n/a plus 800 plus in the nitrous department

bruders is making 2200 plus , plus , plus hp with the f1x

you got to understand if the chassis/tire could take a big hit from the gate then it would take 2000 to run those numbers ....but these guys are in the high teens to low 20's running 50's and 60's so they are pouring it on after the first 80-100 feet some of these cars are over 2500 hp

baller.........

its a lot of coin for the payouts .......i mean shit ya could build a pro stock engine and car and be in the same boat lol for money

This class is just crazy ..i love watching this class . THIS POST IS NOT BASHING THE CLASS either i want that to be known , i just think there on kill mode , deep pockets ect ............ just pure crazy

i would be interested what the bruders have in theres setup to go racing $ wise and id like to compare to a Pro stock

might not be that far off .


Like stated before i will be at shakedown at englishtown and cant wait !! class is the best to watch .Fellow newenglander Bill Meserve will be there running x275 he went pretty deep last year there think he was running 4.90s and now i think hes 4.80s ....i could b ewrong

budget gansta build ...

You do have to remember that it doesnt take 4.60's at most events to win. but it does seem that if the twins show up you are racing for second. LOL

we are going to run it too with a small block and a midframe turbo and I can honestly say that I have less in my car than a lot of guys on this very website have in their motor.

no doubt ..... 4.70 -4.80 in 2013 wil get you in the money ........ this # 4 line is what going to hurt us big blocks the worst ....... Steve is working on some new technology for us right know

X275 is a great class! lots of X cars at all the larger venues, sponsers love it, pay-outs are good, guys that play are good, and action is killer!
I cant play in the game, but it does look like fun even that the Bruders are flying, but any race that is im my area I go support by holding up the fence....that is all

for me it has taken sevral years just to have and build a car that is just a field filler in the 275 stuff:shock: this passed year i steped up and spent more than i should but it is what it is i was no were the top of the tune on the -6 line so the -4 line change just helped the mile per hour

Larry T wrote:for me it has taken sevral years just to have and build a car that is just a field filler in the 275 stuff:shock: this passed year i steped up and spent more than i should but it is what it is i was no were the top of the tune on the -6 line so the -4 line change just helped the mile per hour

Larry T wrote:for me it has taken sevral years just to have and build a car that is just a field filler in the 275 stuff:shock: this passed year i steped up and spent more than i should but it is what it is i was no were the top of the tune on the -6 line so the -4 line change just helped the mile per hour

love your car! you never know what can happen in this class as far as winning....next year will be different for sure, would still like to see some rules changes for the n2o cars......good luck with your future tunes!

will you be at Shakedown this week? If yes Ill stop by and say "hey"

i am considering a cam and intake change to be moor compeditive i will make it up that way oneday you can bet on it

NOS42 wrote:will you be at Shakedown this week? If yes Ill stop by and say "hey"

i will be , are you running ?

No, I make sure that all the fencing and cement don't move...

I have nothing for this show

What is your ride and ill come and say hello

my cars still waiting on engine parts .......but im to slow for this event dont have that kind of money car should go 9.60-9.80 range but gonna slow it to run 10.00 index ( thats all i can really afford ) . I just go and support the shakedown in my opinion is best out there near new england for me at least.

Im staying at the radisson its suppose to be closest hotel to the track .

I would love 10.00 index to be added to shakedown but its pretty full already , its been talked about because the yb nationals had the class .

I have a real good job ,28 ft enclosed trailer , nice tow rig ect ...... my car was built by DMC racing fulll chromoly cage cert to 8.50s ,nice built glide , narrowed 35 spline 8.8 ect ......but when it came time to build engine i didnt have enough dough to build that 8.50 engine i wanted so . im doing a big valve iron dove 528ci combo . I spent crazy money on everything else lol

It would be pretty cool to meet ya

I'm building a X275 deal but may very well run Ultra Street instead. We will see

yellowhorse7 wrote:I'm building a X275 deal but may very well run Ultra Street instead. We will see

what are the rules diff. between u/s and x275 ???? isnt it sb only 440" ????

bruno wrote:

yellowhorse7 wrote:I'm building a X275 deal but may very well run Ultra Street instead. We will see

what are the rules diff. between u/s and x275 ???? isnt it sb only 440" ????

n/m found it

Ultra Street Shootout

1/8th mile Eliminator

BODY:
Fiberglass/Carbon body panels are limited to hood, rear deck lid, fenders, doors, and bumpers. Cowl hoods may not be taller than half way point of the windshield. Forward facing scoops are prohibited on power adder combos unless factory installed or less than 5 inches from flat area of hood. Inlets for turbos and superchargers must not be exposed to ram air

INTERIOR:
Aftermarket steering columns are allowed. Factory type dash accepted. Must have carpet.

ELECTRICAL:
Optical devices are prohibited. All entries must have operational head lights and tail lights.

ENGINE:
Aftermarket blocks and cylinder heads are allowed. All entries must utilize a single carburetor cast intake manifold. Motor plates and solid mounts are allowed. Engine must be in stock location. Mufflers are required on all vehicles (except turbos). All SB power adder engines are limited to 440 cubic inches. SB N/A limited to 470 and BB N/A limited to 632 and BOP power adder limited to 588. Any engine in question will be measured with a P&G gauge. A correction factor of 1.5% will be used. Competitors may be asked to remove a cylinder head for bore and stroke measurements should any discrepancies arise.

INDUCTION:
Small blocks and BB N/A combinations may use a single cast intake manifold with single carb or EFI. Cast tunnel ram permitted on stock valve angle only w/ weight penalty. (See* below) Small Block N/A may use cast tunnel ram/sheetmetal/dual carbs w/weight penalty (See*below)

POWER ADDERS:
Nitrous limited to SB and BOP entries - Progressive nitrous controllers are allowed. Entries must utilize a single stage nitrous plate with one nitrous, one fuel and one redundant purge solenoid. Foggers must be disconnected and all solenoids must be capped off. Nitrous plates using fogger nozzles are not allowed. Jet limit/solenoid size TBD on stock valve angle with cast tunnel ram & nitrous.

Turbo and supercharged entries are limited to stock valve angle SB combos only. (SB CHEVY 23 DEGREE - SB FORD 20 DEGREE – 18 DEGREE MOPAR - FACTORY HEADED SMALL BLOCK FORD MOD MOTOR - LS CHEVY 15 DEGREE)

TRANSMISSION:
Any OEM style automatic or OEM manual transmission is allowed with power adder. Clutch assisted/clutchless manual transmission allowed on N/A. Manual transmissions must utilize SFI approved bell housing.

REAR SUSPENSION:
Stock type rear suspension or ladder bar only. Coil over shocks are allowed. Anti-roll allowed. Aftermarket replacement control arms are allowed. Stock frame rails must be in place, notching permitted. (N/A cars/trucks permitted ladder bar suspension without weight penalty) Wheelie bars are prohibited on all cars.

FRONT SUSPENSION:
Factory type front suspension only. Coil over shocks are allowed. Aftermarket replacement control arms are allowed. Aftermarket K-Members allowed.

WHEELS/TIRES:
A maximum of a 28 x 10.5 non W slick, 28 x 12.50 ET Street or any 275 radial may be used on N/A, power adders limited to a P275/60-15 MickeyThompson Tire P/N 3754R radial tire. Wheel width is limited to 12"

NITROUS WEIGHTS:
Base weight includes BOP combos - 3200
All heads 14.9 and under - 3250
Any canted valve head - 3250
All heads 15 degrees and above carry no additional weight
Any 23 degree combo - 3000
Blue Thunder Cylinder Heads - 3300
Any 20 degree ford – 3000
TFS-R ford - 3100

SUPERCHARGER WEIGHTS:
F1A-3200
F1C - 3250
YSI – 3250

TURBO WEIGHTS:
T-76 - 3150
T-80 - 3200

N/A WEIGHTS:
N/A Inline head – 2600
N/A Non-Inline head – 2700
N/A (big block with standard deck height and conventional head) 2900 lbs
N/A (big block with tall deck height and conventional head) 2950 lbs
N/A (big block with standard height and big chief head) 3000 lbs
N/A (big block with tall deck height and big chief head) 3100 lbs

GENERAL:
No Billet cylinder heads/blocks
No Billet wheels on turbo combo
No Reducers on turbo or supercharged combo
Alcohol/E85 legal (meth injection legal on non-intercooled combo only)
All turbos and superchargers must be as manufactured from factory
No muffler required on turbo entry, required on all other combos
No bull horns
Gear driven supercharger allowed
Belt driven supercharger deduct 50 lbs
LS 15* add 50 lbs
Non Intercooled boosted combos deduct 50 lbs (no deduct if on Alcohol for fuel)
Leaf springs deduct 100lbs
Ladder bar add 50 lbs (except N/A)
*Cast Tunnel Ram with 4150 carbs on stock valve angle head on SB NOS add 100 lbs
*Cast Tunnel Ram/Sheetmetal/Dual Carbs on SB N/A add 50 lbs
Single 4150 carb/throttle body deduct 50lbs
V6 entries deduct 150lb

Interesting class seems like they are trying to keep a level playing field, what kinda times are they running?

5-5 teens ....... i believe ... should be in the 90's by the end of the year ...rules might change for 2013 to keep it level

im sure Tony can fill us in this is the first time i cked into this class