TRICKFLOW 325cc C.N.C HEADS

HI GUY,S, first off happy new year all, was wondering if any flow or dyno numbers up for these yet. well managed to pick up a spare big block (dove-a ) over the winter break there, it came with a fresh +030" bore, new flat top forged piston,s, stock standerd main,s, big-ends, no heads, cam or manifolds, was thinking these would be a great choise as ive got a mafia inlet at the moment && i don,t want to change the pistons, it has a dommie flange & i could spec a 1050 for it . was thinking i could build & swap in at end ove season as my pop is runing high 9s at the moment. its a prety stock dove-a with a pot o sonic wey 800d/p holley, edel performer cam,3500 high stall, 2 speedglide,full m.s.d. 4.56 9" rear. the question is would this be a good shout at an 8s 1/4 what do u think.? ive also got a lunati voodoo roller cam, roller lifters & roller lifters for it. thanks for ur thoughts guys, it aint easy trying to get ford bits here in the uk,as most folk think the sun shines out c***y shit here. u should see the look on there face when they are pumped wey a 429 big block cheers jonny

no dyno numbers, but went 9.08 @146 with those heads on a 562 in a 3250 pnd car, and a c6 trans

10SHOTS wrote:no dyno numbers, but went 9.08 @146 with those heads on a 562 in a 3250 pnd car, and a c6 trans

souds like it maybe the way to go as saves me changing the piston,s for super cobra jet ones, impressive time u got, i think iam half ur weight also. cheers for the reply, jonny

What's the price of these TF CNC 325 Heads cost.? And what they flow? What exhast ports do they have? And chamber sizes. Sport am new to bbf I got to.decide on heads before getting my rotating assy.
part number on Heads who be great also.does these heads require the TF intake?
Thanks

Thanks! I just guess I will.have to Google that.that seems to be my Best Friend.
hey Scotland. What CAR is that? Angula or Willy's? I.always liked that body style

2fox wrote:Thanks! I just guess I will.have to Google that.that seems to be my Best Friend.
hey Scotland. What CAR is that? Angula or Willy's? I.always liked that body style

hi m8, was trying to get some responce also, seen them for sale on trickflow site / summit racing &&& thought they were reasonable at about £850 each. those are c.n.c. ported & there ain,t anyone in scotland to port them. also i can fit them on my block wey flat tops, no need for special pistons, set up for high lift also, was wanting to run them on my 0.030 over block at end ove season for next year with a view to stroker kit the following year the anglia in my avatar is a 1958 (green one) it run,s a mongrel 215 cu.in rover all alloy engine/box. they were called ford populars (103e) here in u.k. it run,s straight & quick at high 13s, but the blue one which is a 1953 anglia runs 429 & is an animal as it is very narrow & 0nly 94" wheelbase. as light as a bed frame. i think the heads should perform real good, i was just going to fit s/cjet heads but to get the flow with my mafia intake i would presume better power with the tfs as come ported. hopefully some imput guy,s

p.s got a 41 willyz wey bbf 460 on the back burner as we speak. cheers jonny

Great cars.. I need see also.no good porters in my area too. I Iike to know that they flow out the box. I was thinking of.the summit ALUM SCJ HEADS $1800.for pair
the TF 325 CNC are $1350 each.
if we don't get any replies I search later when I got more time.

Here's the link dude's

http://www.trickflow.com/partdetail.asp?part=TFS%2D5341T010%2DC01&autoview=sku

dkp

bosshoss wrote:Here's the link dude's

http://www.trickflow.com/partdetail.asp?part=TFS%2D5341T010%2DC01&autoview=sku

dkp

thanks bosshog. Any flow charts for those heads out the box. The other info did me good thanks!

Pretty sure there was a flow chart link on that page.

dkp

bosshoss wrote:Pretty sure there was a flow chart link on that page.

dkp

I didn't. See any on the link? Am not to great with this phone net stuff.
just wonder.it.say maximum lift is .850 that is great. Need intake /exhast flow #'s out the box.I hop they flow in the 360 range intake hopefully A little more

Thanks again! See if you can find them. If you have time.


EDIT : I found the flow number and are very impressive! 401 @ .800 lift awesome
that's my head choice.so.far. But can you can will shed some light on the kasse P51's flow they. ?

http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/component/content/article/40-kaase-products/188-kaase-p-51-cylinder-heads.html

dkp

bosshoss wrote:http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/component/content/article/40-kaase-products/188-kaase-p-51-cylinder-heads.html

dkp

hey bosshoss. Thanks again! Not sure what to go with.#'s are about the same.
but the TF states. They flow 401/287 @.800 lift. But with A 4.600 bore. How much less flow with a 4.390 bore?

I dont have any first hand experience with either head but I have heard nothing but good in regards to the P51. As far as losses on the smaller bore I cant help you with that.

dkp

bosshoss wrote:I dont have any first hand experience with either head but I have heard nothing but good in regards to the P51. As far as losses on the smaller bore I cant help you with that.

dkp

in reguards to pricing what the cost on the P51's complete assy. Titanium retainers and 1.640 springs.
do they have cnc ones too.
wonder what the prices are non cnc
and ported and there flow #'s
thanks form helping out.I.got a lot to learn

2fox wrote:

bosshoss wrote:http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/component/content/article/40-kaase-products/188-kaase-p-51-cylinder-heads.html

dkp

hey bosshoss. Thanks again! Not sure what to go with.#'s are about the same.
but the TF states. They flow 401/287 @.800 lift. But with A 4.600 bore. How much less flow with a 4.390 bore?

hey gary, just seen the flow numbers m8 & they are impressive, didn,t realise it was for a bigger bore, hopefully they won,t drop a lot on a near stock bore. the p51 are great heads, but the idea ove not having to spend more doo on different piston,s is what i was after.was thinking i could just get scj/b heads & get away with bolting them straight on as my cam is only a comp cam 280 at the moment,but they would be not much use when i fit a stroker later on. 0.850 lift on the tfs would let me run my solid lunati voodoo cam later wey ma stroker kit. cheers jonny i take it wey ur handle u got a foxbody, stick up some pictures bud, if u go to my introduction u will see a picture ove ma blue pop, got it rubbed down to repaint for this years racing

2fox wrote:

bosshoss wrote:I dont have any first hand experience with either head but I have heard nothing but good in regards to the P51. As far as losses on the smaller bore I cant help you with that.

dkp

in reguards to pricing what the cost on the P51's complete assy. Titanium retainers and 1.640 springs.
do they have cnc ones too.
wonder what the prices are non cnc
and ported and there flow #'s
thanks form helping out.I.got a lot to learn

P-51 heads are already somewhat CNC'd as the chambers and the bowls all the way around the short turn radius are delivered that way.

Are the TF cnc 325's for a .030 over block? I didn't want to go all the way to 4.440 since the juice 250 shot with the 13-1 compression I think I will. Above 13-1 with flat top pistons..I dunno maybe less compression would be better with a bigger hit of nitrous?

Also someone said the P51's are semi cnc d? Do both of them use the same piston ?
and do they fit A. 030 over bore?
big thanks

From what I have seen and read the either head will work on anything from a stock bore up to and including 4.600 or whatever you care to bore your block to. The general consensus seems to be that the larger the bore the less the intake valve is shrouded. especially at low lift. Less shrouding equals better overall breathing equals more horsepower. Exact amounts will vary based on many different factors in each engine. The TFS head uses stock ford valve angles while the SCJ and the P51 use revised and relocated valve angles that make for a more efficient combustion chamber and better flow characteristics especially on the short turn radius of the intake port. All three are great heads. Just depends on your budget and personal choice for the most part. There have been several builds talked about on here lately using all three of these heads so read up and have fun. There is always more than one way to skin a cat and no saying which is right or wrong.

dkp

bosshoss wrote:From what I have seen and read the either head will work on anything from a stock bore up to and including 4.600 or whatever you care to bore your block to. The general consensus seems to be that the larger the bore the less the intake valve is shrouded. especially at low lift. Less shrouding equals better overall breathing equals more horsepower. Exact amounts will vary based on many different factors in each engine. The TFS head uses stock ford valve angles while the SCJ and the P51 use revised and relocated valve angles that make for a more efficient combustion chamber and better flow characteristics especially on the short turn radius of the intake port. All three are great heads. Just depends on your budget and personal choice for the most part. There have been several builds talked about on here lately using all three of these heads so read up and have fun. There is always more than one way to skin a cat and no saying which is right or wrong.

dkp

thank you so kindly for the info.its well appreciated .

OK.

bosshoss wrote:From what I have seen and read the either head will work on anything from a stock bore up to and including 4.600 or whatever you care to bore your block to. The general consensus seems to be that the larger the bore the less the intake valve is shrouded. especially at low lift. Less shrouding equals better overall breathing equals more horsepower. Exact amounts will vary based on many different factors in each engine. The TFS head uses stock ford valve angles while the SCJ and the P51 use revised and relocated valve angles that make for a more efficient combustion chamber and better flow characteristics especially on the short turn radius of the intake port. All three are great heads. Just depends on your budget and personal choice for the most part. There have been several builds talked about on here lately using all three of these heads so read up and have fun. There is always more than one way to skin a cat and no saying which is right or wrong.

dkp

thanks.
OK with all 3of them heads stated above. which one would.be the best out the box.let's. Say. Non Budget heads ,Then to the bugdet heads. Thanks again

I got a goodC9 .STD. bore block. Should I. .030 - .060 - or. 080 it?
I think of it like this will all. Good eagle internalls. I figure. The block will be the weakest link. Then it will most likely take everything out with it?

And. Still undecided on a 4.300 or a 4.500.stroke?




So debataing on heads & bore size.

hey gary, ive decided to go for the c.n.c 325 heads, only place in uk that can port the scj/b,s is in england & between the cost ove shipping them down + cost to do the work ends up wey dearer than buying the 325 c.n.c. tfs,s. i was thinking that ill go for a stroker kit later on with direct port fogger system & shoot for 600 + h.p. should get my we pop in to the 8s cheers jonny

Well I want at least 800+ HP. Not sure if I can do that with these heads? Or the others above.
I know big HP gains come from the TF 360's with BBC exhast ports. But what I don't under stand in what headers to fir in my fox body?
Are you going 4.300/4.500 Stroke. And what compression you running?
What bore size?