Rebuild info
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FalconEh
dfree383
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Rebuild info
I've purchased a 71 460 that needs rebuilt. It's completely factory. D0ve heads. I'm looking for a factory spec rebuild kit for the bottom end or entire engine that is reputable. I've only found random eBay kits from unknow origins. Any help would be fantastic.
Vinnybigblock- Posts : 22
Join date : 2014-11-13
Re: Rebuild info
You need to be very specific here. Do you need pistons, cam, etc, or just a ring and bearing deal?
schmitty- Posts : 4538
Join date : 2008-12-02
Age : 54
Location : Holdrege, NE
Re: Rebuild info
Their are a number of vendors here or you can try some of the big warehouses like jegs or summit .
eBay is pretty useless unless you know what to buy. It's just an random electronic catalog of junk with bad titles, poor descriptions and idiot sellers.
eBay is pretty useless unless you know what to buy. It's just an random electronic catalog of junk with bad titles, poor descriptions and idiot sellers.
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Rebuild info
By bottom end I mean the whole damn thing! Pistons bearings rings, basically the rotating assembly. Like a master rebuild kit
Vinnybigblock- Posts : 22
Join date : 2014-11-13
Re: Rebuild info
I would recommend that you get your block checked so you know what your final bore number is going to be before you invest in the internals, .030/.060 etc. once you have the bore cleanup over bore number then you know the piston bore you need and you can look at your performance expectations and make an accurate decision as to what you want the bottom end to be...don`t rush it get it right.
FalconEh- Posts : 1448
Join date : 2014-08-21
Location : on the blacktop or in the mountains ????
Re: Rebuild info
Absolutely! I just haven't found anyone who carries a stock rebuild kit anywhere
Vinnybigblock- Posts : 22
Join date : 2014-11-13
Re: Rebuild info
You're not looking very hard.....
http://m.summitracing.com/search/make/ford/engine-size/7-5l-460/engine-family/ford-big-block-385-series/part-type/engine-rebuild-kits/piston-style/flat-top-with-two-valve-reliefs?keyword=460%20rebuild%20kit
http://m.summitracing.com/search/make/ford/engine-size/7-5l-460/engine-family/ford-big-block-385-series/part-type/engine-rebuild-kits/piston-style/flat-top-with-two-valve-reliefs?keyword=460%20rebuild%20kit
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Re: Rebuild info
Look through this list they are members here and will treat you right.
VENDOR LIST ***** updated 01-12-10 PLEASE SUPPORT OUR VENDORS !!!!
Post Admin on Thu 6 Aug - 11:31
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Adney Brown –Performance Crankshaftinc
His signature describes his services pretty well, I think:
PERFORMANCE CRANKSHAFT INC,. YOUR FIRST STOP FOR CRANKSHAFT REPAIR , MODIFICATIONS AND CUSTOM CRANKSHAFTS /; ROTATING ASSEMBLIES ... coffee donuts and entertainment available at no extra charge ... shop phone 586-549-7557 lounge phone 313-873-6588
Lem Evans – Lem Evans
http://www.bfevansraceparts.com/
270 US 431
Livermore, KY 42352
1-877-611-2613
1-270-278-2376 local/outside USA
1-270-278-9272 fax
lem.evans@bfevansford.com e-mail
s.hembree@bfevansraceparts.com e-mail
Probe Industries - Mark O’Neal
http://www.probeindustries.com/
2555 West 237th Street
Torrance, CA 90505
1-866-718-6267 sales
1-866-249-9142 customer svc
1-866-249-9143 customer svc fax
David Willingham – ProF100
Advanced Motorsports Engineering
1605 Alldredge Rd
Blountsville, AL 35031
205-429-1320 shop
205-429-1319 fax
205-559-2569 cell
I have a small shop and do CNC machine work geared towards drag-racing related parts. I do work for some well-known NHRA Pro-mod teams and a couple of funny car teams. I specialize in close-tolerance custom parts. I can work off prints, reverse engineer, or just design and build what you want.
Nick Bruno- bruno
www.ckrme.com
CKR AUTOMOTIVE PRODUCTS
2259 COBBS FORD RD
334-285-2230
mobile audio & video products & installation, car alarms, body kits, tinting, etc.
Charlie Evans – c.evans
http://www.evansracingengines.com/
1231 Upper Trace, Owensboro, KY 42303
270-685-4654
cylinder head/intake work, flow bench work, custom adapters, specialty tools, etc.
Dan Hobbs- 56tbird
Dan Hobbs Signs
270-314-3383
custom graphics, lettering, decals, stickers
Diamond Pistons – 429sluggo (Eric)
http://www.diamondracing.net/
23003 Diamond Dr.
Clinton Township, MI 48035
877-552-2112 phone
586-792-1105 fax
Note: Carl, Lem, Barry, and others sell Diamond pistons and can undoubtedly arrange for special orders as well if needed. Check with them as to piston pricing, as it may be cheaper than dealing direct.
ndagostino@diamondracing.net e-mail note: YB member
mpanetta@diamondracing.net e-mail note: YB member
esimone@diamondracing.net
Eric Simone also offers Boss 429 rockers-
http://www.shotgunhemiparts.com/
IDT & Eliminator Products- jjc522
Jay
http://www.eliminatorproducts.com/
819 Winesap
Rochester Hills, MI 48307 (offices)
248-652-3556 phone
248-652-1514 fax
mike@eliminatorproducts.com e-mail
Note: the numbers below were listed by Jay in a forum post; the numbers above are on the website.
(810) 395-2779- office
(888) 577-0438
(810) 395-8056- office
engine blocks & cylinder heads
http://www.jetboatbob.com/ - JETBOATBOB
Bob Hardison
265 Meadowview Drive
Island, KY 42350
270-486-9060 shop
270-316-1472 cell
bob@jetboatbob.com e-mail
engine building, alum. cylinder head repair, custom welding
Joe’s Race Parts- jmayabb
http://www.joesraceparts.com/
2385 KY 746
Compton, KY 41301
606-495-6504
606-668-3735
performance parts for engines/cars/trucks
Jomar Performance – jpb6061
http://www.jomarperformance.com/
211 N. Cass Avenue
Pontiac, MI 48342
248-322-3080 phone
248-322-3078 fax
Lem Evans is a Jomar dealer…they sell direct as well.
Randy Malik - rmcomprandy
custom engine building, custom cam/valvetrain, adjustable pedestal rockers, parts, etc.
“All Custom Engine Building of any type at its' Finest...!
Parts and Supplies from just about everybody also sold separately ... 1(586)909-1591”-
www.rmcompetition.com
Dave McLain - DaveMcLain
custom engine building, parts, etc.
http://www.mclainsautomotive.com/
http://misn.com/~frd460/McLainautomotive.html
Cuba, MO
573-885-3920
frd460@misn.com e-mail
Mike Phillips
http://automachperf.com/
6235 State Route 54
Philpot, KY 42366
270-729-5556 phone
270-729-5557 fax
engine building, dyno services, flow bench work, associated with Charlie, Lem, Philip & a cast of Kentucky others
Bret Powell - Bret Powell
cylinder head porting, flow bench work, engine building, truck pulling
PFC Engines 573-793-2177
Iberia, MO
Phillip Oakley – OAKLEY MOTORSPORTS
(270) 785-4300
oakleysautomotiv@bellsouth.net
Quick Fuel carb dealer, Hoosier tires
www.sullivanstireplus.com
Weld racing dealer, Beadlock conversions,
Mickey Thompson dealer
INDUCTION-SOLUTIONS
www.induction-solutions.com
Nitrous Guru
Steve Johnson
Brooksville, FL 34604
815-341-8853
email: nosman1@aol.com
.
VENDOR LIST ***** updated 01-12-10 PLEASE SUPPORT OUR VENDORS !!!!
Post Admin on Thu 6 Aug - 11:31
.
Adney Brown –Performance Crankshaftinc
His signature describes his services pretty well, I think:
PERFORMANCE CRANKSHAFT INC,. YOUR FIRST STOP FOR CRANKSHAFT REPAIR , MODIFICATIONS AND CUSTOM CRANKSHAFTS /; ROTATING ASSEMBLIES ... coffee donuts and entertainment available at no extra charge ... shop phone 586-549-7557 lounge phone 313-873-6588
Lem Evans – Lem Evans
http://www.bfevansraceparts.com/
270 US 431
Livermore, KY 42352
1-877-611-2613
1-270-278-2376 local/outside USA
1-270-278-9272 fax
lem.evans@bfevansford.com e-mail
s.hembree@bfevansraceparts.com e-mail
Probe Industries - Mark O’Neal
http://www.probeindustries.com/
2555 West 237th Street
Torrance, CA 90505
1-866-718-6267 sales
1-866-249-9142 customer svc
1-866-249-9143 customer svc fax
David Willingham – ProF100
Advanced Motorsports Engineering
1605 Alldredge Rd
Blountsville, AL 35031
205-429-1320 shop
205-429-1319 fax
205-559-2569 cell
I have a small shop and do CNC machine work geared towards drag-racing related parts. I do work for some well-known NHRA Pro-mod teams and a couple of funny car teams. I specialize in close-tolerance custom parts. I can work off prints, reverse engineer, or just design and build what you want.
Nick Bruno- bruno
www.ckrme.com
CKR AUTOMOTIVE PRODUCTS
2259 COBBS FORD RD
334-285-2230
mobile audio & video products & installation, car alarms, body kits, tinting, etc.
Charlie Evans – c.evans
http://www.evansracingengines.com/
1231 Upper Trace, Owensboro, KY 42303
270-685-4654
cylinder head/intake work, flow bench work, custom adapters, specialty tools, etc.
Dan Hobbs- 56tbird
Dan Hobbs Signs
270-314-3383
custom graphics, lettering, decals, stickers
Diamond Pistons – 429sluggo (Eric)
http://www.diamondracing.net/
23003 Diamond Dr.
Clinton Township, MI 48035
877-552-2112 phone
586-792-1105 fax
Note: Carl, Lem, Barry, and others sell Diamond pistons and can undoubtedly arrange for special orders as well if needed. Check with them as to piston pricing, as it may be cheaper than dealing direct.
ndagostino@diamondracing.net e-mail note: YB member
mpanetta@diamondracing.net e-mail note: YB member
esimone@diamondracing.net
Eric Simone also offers Boss 429 rockers-
http://www.shotgunhemiparts.com/
IDT & Eliminator Products- jjc522
Jay
http://www.eliminatorproducts.com/
819 Winesap
Rochester Hills, MI 48307 (offices)
248-652-3556 phone
248-652-1514 fax
mike@eliminatorproducts.com e-mail
Note: the numbers below were listed by Jay in a forum post; the numbers above are on the website.
(810) 395-2779- office
(888) 577-0438
(810) 395-8056- office
engine blocks & cylinder heads
http://www.jetboatbob.com/ - JETBOATBOB
Bob Hardison
265 Meadowview Drive
Island, KY 42350
270-486-9060 shop
270-316-1472 cell
bob@jetboatbob.com e-mail
engine building, alum. cylinder head repair, custom welding
Joe’s Race Parts- jmayabb
http://www.joesraceparts.com/
2385 KY 746
Compton, KY 41301
606-495-6504
606-668-3735
performance parts for engines/cars/trucks
Jomar Performance – jpb6061
http://www.jomarperformance.com/
211 N. Cass Avenue
Pontiac, MI 48342
248-322-3080 phone
248-322-3078 fax
Lem Evans is a Jomar dealer…they sell direct as well.
Randy Malik - rmcomprandy
custom engine building, custom cam/valvetrain, adjustable pedestal rockers, parts, etc.
“All Custom Engine Building of any type at its' Finest...!
Parts and Supplies from just about everybody also sold separately ... 1(586)909-1591”-
www.rmcompetition.com
Dave McLain - DaveMcLain
custom engine building, parts, etc.
http://www.mclainsautomotive.com/
http://misn.com/~frd460/McLainautomotive.html
Cuba, MO
573-885-3920
frd460@misn.com e-mail
Mike Phillips
http://automachperf.com/
6235 State Route 54
Philpot, KY 42366
270-729-5556 phone
270-729-5557 fax
engine building, dyno services, flow bench work, associated with Charlie, Lem, Philip & a cast of Kentucky others
Bret Powell - Bret Powell
cylinder head porting, flow bench work, engine building, truck pulling
PFC Engines 573-793-2177
Iberia, MO
Phillip Oakley – OAKLEY MOTORSPORTS
(270) 785-4300
oakleysautomotiv@bellsouth.net
Quick Fuel carb dealer, Hoosier tires
www.sullivanstireplus.com
Weld racing dealer, Beadlock conversions,
Mickey Thompson dealer
INDUCTION-SOLUTIONS
www.induction-solutions.com
Nitrous Guru
Steve Johnson
Brooksville, FL 34604
815-341-8853
email: nosman1@aol.com
.
69F100- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Rebuild info
What is this engine for? There may be some better options for different applications.
schmitty- Posts : 4538
Join date : 2008-12-02
Age : 54
Location : Holdrege, NE
Re: Rebuild info
I want to hot rod it. Nothing crazy. It has the 74cc D0ve heads
Vinnybigblock- Posts : 22
Join date : 2014-11-13
Re: Rebuild info
If it were me, I'd look at one of the available stroker kits, especially an offset ground stock crank deal. Performance Crankshaft has some great deals on complete assemblies.
schmitty- Posts : 4538
Join date : 2008-12-02
Age : 54
Location : Holdrege, NE
Re: Rebuild info
All the stroker kits I see make my compression 14:1 lol
Vinnybigblock- Posts : 22
Join date : 2014-11-13
Re: Rebuild info
Call Adney, there are lots of different dished piston options out there.
schmitty- Posts : 4538
Join date : 2008-12-02
Age : 54
Location : Holdrege, NE
Re: Rebuild info
I wana have a solid 600horse engine. I know it's not hard on this 460
Vinnybigblock- Posts : 22
Join date : 2014-11-13
Re: Rebuild info
You need to tell them what its going in and how you are going to use it and they can better tell you what you need.
This is what you posted in your new guy post.
( New guy on a mission!
Post Vinnybigblock on Thu 13 Nov 2014 - 13:05
Hi my name is vinny, I'm 23 and I trying to build the most ridiculous street car ever. I have a 1960 lincoln pillar sedan, it is 1 of 1000 ever made. It's originally a 430 mel BBF with three speed auto. I jut bought a 1971 BBF 460 and c6 out of a 71 lincoln. I'm looking to make 600hp and 550tq! I just got the engine and I'm currently seeing if I can break it free. One piston got moisture in it and rusted a little. I'll be looking for advice and parts to buy one here! I like my cars to be unique. So before you tell me that it's dumb to try to make a 5800lb car fast, I know. That's why I want to do it! Any one can make a fox body or camaro fast, try it in a 22ft long land yacht! That's a magic trick for sure. )
This is what you posted in your new guy post.
( New guy on a mission!
Post Vinnybigblock on Thu 13 Nov 2014 - 13:05
Hi my name is vinny, I'm 23 and I trying to build the most ridiculous street car ever. I have a 1960 lincoln pillar sedan, it is 1 of 1000 ever made. It's originally a 430 mel BBF with three speed auto. I jut bought a 1971 BBF 460 and c6 out of a 71 lincoln. I'm looking to make 600hp and 550tq! I just got the engine and I'm currently seeing if I can break it free. One piston got moisture in it and rusted a little. I'll be looking for advice and parts to buy one here! I like my cars to be unique. So before you tell me that it's dumb to try to make a 5800lb car fast, I know. That's why I want to do it! Any one can make a fox body or camaro fast, try it in a 22ft long land yacht! That's a magic trick for sure. )
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Re: Rebuild info
Like Schmitty said a ( stroker ) will put wind in them Sails
res0rli9- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Rebuild info
I'm thinking the stock bottom end will do ok under boost!
Vinnybigblock- Posts : 22
Join date : 2014-11-13
Re: Rebuild info
Vinnybigblock wrote:I'm thinking the stock bottom end will do ok under boost!
Here is what you want!!!!!
Stock bottom end with hyper pistons and stock rods with dove heads and a single 101mm turbo and 20lbs of boost
It will be BAD JK
Build a good stroker get that 600hp and be done all on pump gas
Or build a on edge pump gas stock stroke combo and spin it hard
gmsmkr- Posts : 1364
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Re: Rebuild info
res0rli9 wrote:You need to tell them what its going in and how you are going to use it and they can better tell you what you need.
This is what you posted in your new guy post.
( New guy on a mission!
Post Vinnybigblock on Thu 13 Nov 2014 - 13:05
Hi my name is vinny, I'm 23 and I trying to build the most ridiculous street car ever. I have a 1960 lincoln pillar sedan, it is 1 of 1000 ever made. It's originally a 430 mel BBF with three speed auto. I jut bought a 1971 BBF 460 and c6 out of a 71 lincoln. I'm looking to make 600hp and 550tq! I just got the engine and I'm currently seeing if I can break it free. One piston got moisture in it and rusted a little. I'll be looking for advice and parts to buy one here! I like my cars to be unique. So before you tell me that it's dumb to try to make a 5800lb car fast, I know. That's why I want to do it! Any one can make a fox body or camaro fast, try it in a 22ft long land yacht! That's a magic trick for sure. )
res0rli9 wrote:Like Schmitty said a ( stroker ) will put wind in them Sails
Vinnybigblock wrote:I'm thinking the stock bottom end will do ok under boost!
Schmitty and res0rli9 have been there and built them, they are offering proper advise. You have listed a HP and a torque number which is a good starting point, you also mention that your car weighs in at 5800 lbs, at that weight torque is your friend, but not your stock transmissions friend. You have mentioned a std bore (stock) rebuild kit, but you have a cylinder with rust which likely will need to be over bored at least .010 maybe .020 .030 or more. You are thinking that a stock bottom end will do ok under boost? is that a turbo or nitrous? For those of us who use them we build them to suit, not that the stock bottom end can't handle some but the related stuff can suffer too. It sounds like a cool project, but if you are looking for advise place yourself in the position of the student and keep an open mind...and don't compare a fox body to a cameo (not a typo) as there are many here that are faster than I can make them, so maybe anyone can make one fast but there are many here that are FREAKIN FAST! Look at the sponsor list look at some of the proven builds and keep an open mind and your fast land yacht will take shape. JMO
FalconEh- Posts : 1448
Join date : 2014-08-21
Location : on the blacktop or in the mountains ????
Re: Rebuild info
Vinnybigblock wrote:All the stroker kits I see make my compression 14:1 lol
Call Adney Brown at performance crankshaft he will get you what you need.
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