New motor ready for mustang
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gt350hr
res0rli9
gmsmkr
supervel45
glenevans
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Re: New motor ready for mustang
Ha Ha, chevy and mopar guys don't know the difference!!!
glenevans- Posts : 315
Join date : 2013-01-22
Age : 60
Location : No. Utah
Re: New motor ready for mustang
Where did you get the alternator mount and what style alternator you got I need a deal like that
gmsmkr- Posts : 1364
Join date : 2014-06-22
Location : alabama
Re: New motor ready for mustang
It is a stock ford two piece mount off of a 400 or 460, don't remember. Alternator is a GM 1 wire, 10si I believe, rebuilt to 100 amp, goes to 6ga wire to trunk mounted solenoid or cutoff, have to look tonight. Thinking of going back to 3 wire alternator because volts go down quite a bit when fuel pump, fans, lights, waterpump are all on. The 1 wire setup does not maintain 14v like "normal" when engine is running. Am using a ford contour v6 dual fan setup, fits early mustang radiators nicely, have each fan wired to a toggle separately. I think the alt bracket came from the 1971 LTD wagon 429 I originally swapped into the car back in 1983.
glenevans- Posts : 315
Join date : 2013-01-22
Age : 60
Location : No. Utah
Re: New motor ready for mustang
glenevans wrote:It is a stock ford two piece mount off of a 400 or 460, don't remember. Alternator is a GM 1 wire, 10si I believe, rebuilt to 100 amp, goes to 6ga wire to trunk mounted solenoid or cutoff, have to look tonight. Thinking of going back to 3 wire alternator because volts go down quite a bit when fuel pump, fans, lights, waterpump are all on. The 1 wire setup does not maintain 14v like "normal" when engine is running. Am using a ford contour v6 dual fan setup, fits early mustang radiators nicely, have each fan wired to a toggle separately. I think the alt bracket came from the 1971 LTD wagon 429 I originally swapped into the car back in 1983.
Yes thats a early 429 alt. brk. with short w/p
res0rli9- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: New motor ready for mustang
Thanks for the info... good looking engine
gmsmkr- Posts : 1364
Join date : 2014-06-22
Location : alabama
Re: New motor ready for mustang
My 1972 429 alt. bracket looks like that to. Thanks for the tip on the water pump, I better bring it with me when I go to get the new one, always suspected it was the short one with the fan so close to the A/C compressor.res0rli9 wrote:glenevans wrote:It is a stock ford two piece mount off of a 400 or 460, don't remember. Alternator is a GM 1 wire, 10si I believe, rebuilt to 100 amp, goes to 6ga wire to trunk mounted solenoid or cutoff, have to look tonight. Thinking of going back to 3 wire alternator because volts go down quite a bit when fuel pump, fans, lights, waterpump are all on. The 1 wire setup does not maintain 14v like "normal" when engine is running. Am using a ford contour v6 dual fan setup, fits early mustang radiators nicely, have each fan wired to a toggle separately. I think the alt bracket came from the 1971 LTD wagon 429 I originally swapped into the car back in 1983.
Yes thats a early 429 alt. brk. with short w/p
supervel45- Posts : 4499
Join date : 2013-09-04
Re: New motor ready for mustang
Thanks. I feel like I built 2 or 3 engines with how many times we had this one together and apart. Guys that build engines for living have to really know their stuff to do it efficiently.
glenevans- Posts : 315
Join date : 2013-01-22
Age : 60
Location : No. Utah
Re: New motor ready for mustang
I run the alt belt on the very inside crank pulley, the stock damper was not the grooved style like the short w/p has (on this setup)
glenevans- Posts : 315
Join date : 2013-01-22
Age : 60
Location : No. Utah
Re: New motor ready for mustang
gmsmkr wrote:Where did you get the alternator mount and what style alternator you got I need a deal like that
460 in F150-F350 , probably more applications . My '78 has one and I got a spare at the junk yard.
gt350hr- Posts : 662
Join date : 2014-08-20
Location : Anaheim , CA
Re: New motor ready for mustang
Thanks to all for the help, all my previous motors were iron headed flat tappet builds
glenevans- Posts : 315
Join date : 2013-01-22
Age : 60
Location : No. Utah
Re: New motor ready for mustang
supervel45 wrote:My 1972 429 alt. bracket looks like that to. Thanks for the tip on the water pump, I better bring it with me when I go to get the new one, always suspected it was the short one with the fan so close to the A/C compressor.res0rli9 wrote:glenevans wrote:It is a stock ford two piece mount off of a 400 or 460, don't remember. Alternator is a GM 1 wire, 10si I believe, rebuilt to 100 amp, goes to 6ga wire to trunk mounted solenoid or cutoff, have to look tonight. Thinking of going back to 3 wire alternator because volts go down quite a bit when fuel pump, fans, lights, waterpump are all on. The 1 wire setup does not maintain 14v like "normal" when engine is running. Am using a ford contour v6 dual fan setup, fits early mustang radiators nicely, have each fan wired to a toggle separately. I think the alt bracket came from the 1971 LTD wagon 429 I originally swapped into the car back in 1983.
Yes thats a early 429 alt. brk. with short w/p
The short w/p's came on I think 70 down with the pulley made into the damper. Mine is a 69.. the rest with that brk. used longer spacers.
res0rli9- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: New motor ready for mustang
Good looking motor...... any details on the build?
wayne
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wayney- Posts : 187
Join date : 2013-02-19
Age : 56
Re: New motor ready for mustang
4 bolt Dove-A block, 4.39 bore, zero decked, Lunati forged 4.500 crank, scat H-beam rods , arp 2000 bolts, flat top auto tech pistons, 14-1 compression, solid roller cam .760 lift 276° duration cam pinned and bigger bolt w/roller bearing, stock P-51 heads, Crower ss 1.73 rockers, mafia intake smoothed a bit, holley 1150 carb, deep sump pan with Kaase aluminum pump and canton windage screen, innovators west damper , moroso electric water pump , .137 wall 3/8 pushrods. 8" converter, 1969 mach 1, 4400 ft elevation. Whew!!!
glenevans- Posts : 315
Join date : 2013-01-22
Age : 60
Location : No. Utah
Re: New motor ready for mustang
The elevation is the kicker, lose about 13% of power right off the bat.
glenevans- Posts : 315
Join date : 2013-01-22
Age : 60
Location : No. Utah
Re: New motor ready for mustang
Cant wait to hear some results.
Thats almost the exactly the engine that cam came out of.
Youre gonna be a VERY happy man the first day you drive it
Thats almost the exactly the engine that cam came out of.
Youre gonna be a VERY happy man the first day you drive it
dirt_worker- Posts : 535
Join date : 2009-04-03
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Really looking forward to feeling some power finally. Thanks for parts Mike!!! Hope we can make it up to Boise this year.
glenevans- Posts : 315
Join date : 2013-01-22
Age : 60
Location : No. Utah
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So did you have the heads ported or did you bolt them on out the box? It's should make a ton of power either way.
supervel45- Posts : 4499
Join date : 2013-09-04
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Heads are unported. My plan was to get it running for couple years, then when doing freshen up, have heads and intake ported and maybe get bigger cam.
glenevans- Posts : 315
Join date : 2013-01-22
Age : 60
Location : No. Utah
Re: New motor ready for mustang
10/4. Hey on a different subject have you had problems with PhotoBucket loading pictures and do you know of a different way or if someone else can post them somehow or can it be done from a cellphone? My kid does all this kind of stuff for me and he could not come up with a way.
supervel45- Posts : 4499
Join date : 2013-09-04
Re: New motor ready for mustang
Unfortunately I am not very helpful with this stuff. The guy that helps me does it by opening a photo bucket app on my phone and then sign in on computer. Then you have to "move" the photos you want to "your bucket". Then click on the bottom direct link , control c (copy) then while on this website (429-460.com) you click the small blue box, then control v (paste) . I have the actual step by step at work, so this may be wrong, will check tomorrow or Saturday when I am back there
glenevans- Posts : 315
Join date : 2013-01-22
Age : 60
Location : No. Utah
Re: New motor ready for mustang
Thanks. The pictures loaded on the cell prone from photobucket but not the laptop. Had a lot of rain today and laptop kind of sketchey, don't really know what is going on. Could you hit the chatbox for a second if you have time please?
supervel45- Posts : 4499
Join date : 2013-09-04
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Second too slow, I'll catch you tomorrow. I thought you logged off hit the chat box if you can.
supervel45- Posts : 4499
Join date : 2013-09-04
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