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Post  Big block fox 339 February 1st 2010, 9:15 pm

Ok im finally ready to put my fox together im running d&d headers and motor plates. The mid plate on the passenger side aint even close to fitting trimming wont help what should i do thanks for the help



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Post  richter69 February 1st 2010, 9:30 pm

gonna have to trim it, wont be much left worth mounting after your done. I'd weld a tab on the plate in a different spot. i even like to put a tap on the top and run spacers through the firewall, tie it into the rollcage............damn stout that way...lets the midplate do its job and distribute the power to the chassis.

In the process of doing this on our smallblock fox mustang, should be able to get some progress pics by the weekend.
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Post  Big block fox 339 February 1st 2010, 9:55 pm

cool thanks only thing is im not running a roll cage yet its a street car the way it looks to me trimming it wont work...... big thanks to bob at d&d these hearders are awesome if it wasnt for the mid plate problem it would b smooth sailing
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Post  D. Sea February 2nd 2010, 1:36 pm

I think you're gonna have to make a new mid plate. Should look similar to this


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I trimmed mine to fit the headers first and then the chassis. Actually I made a cardboard template and trimmed it FIRST then transfered it over to the metal plate and then cut/trim...
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Post  Big block fox 339 February 2nd 2010, 1:57 pm

Thanks that looks good what kind of plate did you cut that out of how thick Just regular sheet metal ?
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Post  D. Sea February 2nd 2010, 4:17 pm

Big block fox 339 wrote:Thanks that looks good what kind of plate did you cut that out of how thick Just regular sheet metal ?

It started out as a midplate from Bob at D&D but it's a "trim to fit deal" and is one big square with the holes already cut to fit the bolts and dowel pins.
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Post  521fox4eye February 2nd 2010, 4:33 pm

D. Sea wrote:
Big block fox 339 wrote:Thanks that looks good what kind of plate did you cut that out of how thick Just regular sheet metal ?

It started out as a midplate from Bob at D&D but it's a "trim to fit deal" and is one big square with the holes already cut to fit the bolts and dowel pins.
we ran the same set up and had to do the same thing,tried 3 different plates before we got it right,the mid plate was the toughest part of the swap

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Post  Big block fox 339 February 3rd 2010, 12:26 am

Thanks for the ideas guys i got my template made gonna make the mid plate tomorrow. I got one more question what kind of mount did yall use due to the mounting holes being so much higher
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Post  DFI429 February 3rd 2010, 4:54 am

Big block fox 339 wrote:Thanks for the ideas guys i got my template made gonna make the mid plate tomorrow. I got one more question what kind of mount did yall use due to the mounting holes being so much higher

Why not just utilize the plate you have & cut the passenger-side ear off & re-locate it? That way you retain the bolt & dowel pin holes, and can put the mount holes/tab where you need them..

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Post  D. Sea February 3rd 2010, 1:11 pm

I have "L" type brackets that attache to the frame and then bolt to the midplate. Sorry, don't have pictures of those brackets.
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Post  Big block fox 339 February 3rd 2010, 3:49 pm

Why not just utilize the plate you have & cut the passenger-side ear off & re-locate it? That way you retain the bolt & dowel pin holes, and can put the mount holes/tab where you need them..

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Yeah thought about that but the metal for the new one wasn't but 17 buck so I went that route
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Post  bruno February 3rd 2010, 4:54 pm

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here is mine but i also had to trim a buch on the pass side for the kooks to work ... i tried to copy Damons deal

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Post  D. Sea February 3rd 2010, 5:47 pm

Good picture Nick,

If you guys look really close, you can see the brackets that are bolted THROUGH the frame. One day while Bill was over helping with the anti-roll bar, he tig welded some nuts on the backside of the brackets. Makes installation MUCH easier Idea


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You may have to trim a little bit more on the drivers side to clear the steering shaft. You won't know until you get it test fitted in the car.
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Post  Big block fox 339 February 3rd 2010, 7:04 pm

Thanks for the pic Mr. bruno... ive got those same L brackets but i dont think mine are gonna b high enough im just gonna fab whatever i need to make it work i hope to stick the motor and tranny in this weekend!!!!
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Post  56Tbird February 3rd 2010, 7:54 pm

bruno wrote:mid plate problem plz help!! DSC02764

here is mine but i also had to trim a buch on the pass side for the kooks to work ... i tried to copy Damons deal
No kidding ,you had to trim a bunch off of it Very Happy :king:Looks like you got hammer happy on the fire wall too Rolling Eyes
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Post  342g February 3rd 2010, 9:36 pm

i get the feeling Dan did the trimming. Very Happy Very Happy
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Post  richter69 February 3rd 2010, 11:19 pm

Here is the one I modified for the smallblock, note the holes through the firewall behind the tab on the top, I had some steel dowls made that will go through the holes and weld into the cage structure. Just use some bolts to go through and tie it into the midplate.

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Post  jbozzelle February 4th 2010, 12:49 pm

Nice pic Jon.

Are you going to add some sliders for the plate to slide into position on?

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Post  Big block fox 339 February 4th 2010, 1:46 pm

Anybody got any pics of how you mounted the Lat limiter bars ? This is my first car I'm learning And what about mounting a c6 what mounts are yall using. Thanks for the help I wouldn't b able to build a car without it !
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Post  richter69 February 4th 2010, 2:12 pm

jbozzelle wrote:Nice pic Jon.

Are you going to add some sliders for the plate to slide into position on?


I always leave the midplate in the car.
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Post  jbozzelle February 4th 2010, 3:40 pm

OK, how are you going to tie in that plate to the dash bar? Similar to your car? I plan to do the same to mine, but my dash bar runs striaght across from a-pillar to a-pillar right behind the instrument cluster...

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Post  richter69 February 4th 2010, 7:53 pm

similar to this...........I ran a bar across to the bars that go forward through the firewall.

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Post  Greg_P February 4th 2010, 8:08 pm

What size rebar did you use on that gas pedal, Jon?
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Post  richter69 February 4th 2010, 8:10 pm

Greg_P wrote:What size rebar did you use on that gas pedal, Jon?

I used tubing, hollow in the middle.....lighter by a whole bunch......... Very Happy
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Post  jbozzelle February 4th 2010, 10:29 pm

Gotcha. This whole time I thought that cross bar was the dash bar. My dash bar doesn't go that far forward. Not sure if the factory brake pedal assembly will allow a bar like that either.

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