Re: Race Engine Weights

Kevin93 March 28th 2010, 10:36 pm

An IDT Eliminator block with a 4.680 bore, bronze lifter bushings installed & LSM CNC litening program weighs approx. 204 lbs without the roller cam bearings installed. Thanks & have a nice night!!!!

bruno February 6th 2011, 9:22 am

any updated info ???

Larry Williams February 6th 2011, 11:19 am

c.evans wrote:Guys,

I've been doing some checking lately, with an very accurate and zeroed 1000 lb scale, of the BB Ford engines we've had going on the dyno lately. All engines were weighed without flexplate or starter, but with oil, carb and etc . In other words I've made sure that the comparisons are valid.

1. Bobby's engine. DOVE-A block, 4.442" X 4.500" = 559 CID, Milodon splayed 4 bolt main caps, P-51 heads, Victor, single 1250 QFX carb, Mezeire electric water pump. 600 lbs.

2. Mike's engine. FRPP SVO block, 4.420" X 4.300" (I think? Lem?), P-51 heads, Victor, single QFT carb, water pump. 641 lbs.

3. Todd's engine. FRPP SVO block, 4.600" X 4.500"= 598 CID, TFS A-460 heads, TFS 2 X 4 tunnel ram manifold, two QFT 1150 carbs, Mezeire electric water pump, Moroso vacuum pump, dry sump pump and lines, Peterson dry sump tank, & nitrous plumbing. 735 lbs.

4. Jeff's engine. DOVE-A block, 4.440 X 4.500"= 557 CID, short fill HardBlok, Milodon splayed 4 bolt main caps, TFS A-460 heads, TFS single four intake manifold, alum. mechanical water pump, single QFT carb. 627 lbs.

I hope this is helpful,

Charlie Evans

Where is number 5 Charlie? I need to order front springs as I am replacing the old gabriels on there now and the weight would be a huge help.

Larry

c.evans February 12th 2011, 12:14 am

Larry,

To answer your question,,,,,engine # 5 is an all alum. block 598 CID engine with TFS A-460 18 bolt heads and a TFS single plane intake manifold. Complete with carb, oil, flexplate, internal Kaase oil pump, vacuum pump but no starter,,,,it weighs 556 lbs.

Hope this helps,

Charlie

Larry Williams February 12th 2011, 12:36 am

thanks charlie thats just what I was looking for.

D-CEL February 17th 2011, 4:28 pm

Hey Guys,

Fantastic! I can contribute too! LOL

My unmachined A96 weighs 160lbs

Jason

peganit2 May 30th 2011, 11:08 pm

What made that first engine comparatively lighter then the rest?

peganit2 May 31st 2011, 4:00 pm

Talked to some chevy boys about that 600# number, and the 559 cubes. They were pretty quiet. Cool

c.evans May 31st 2011, 6:25 pm

peganit2 wrote:What made that first engine comparatively lighter then the rest?

Answwer;

1. The block was a stock production block and it was lighter than the aftermarket blocks.

2. The alum. P-51 heads are fairly light in weight. They are an OEM style CJ head.

3. The FRPP Victor single plane intake manifold was lighter than the bigger A-460 or C-460 single planes.

4. The #1 engine that was weaighed was Bobby Shrewsberry's engine and he won Super Pro at the 2010 Ford bash with it.

Hope this helps,

Charlie

peganit2 May 31st 2011, 6:54 pm

c.evans wrote:
peganit2 wrote:What made that first engine comparatively lighter then the rest?

Answwer;

1. The block was a stock production block and it was lighter than the aftermarket blocks.

2. The alum. P-51 heads are fairly light in weight. They are an OEM style CJ head.

3. The FRPP Victor single plane intake manifold was lighter than the bigger A-460 or C-460 single planes.

4. The #1 engine that was weaighed was Bobby Shrewsberry's engine and he won Super Pro at the 2010 Ford bash with it.

Hope this helps,

Charlie

Not sure. The next lightest with p51's is +41#.
Any more reasons why #1 was that much lighter?

peganit2 May 31st 2011, 7:02 pm

I would LOVE to get a BBF around 600lbs for my Fox Mustang, and I just want to know what it takes.

c.evans May 31st 2011, 10:04 pm

Engine #2, (Mike's) had P-51 heads, but the 41 lb. difference in engine weight can be attributed to the SVO A-460 block. That's Ford aftermarket racing block with really thick cylinder walls and siamese cylinders, also a beefier bottom end.

Charlie

peganit2 June 1st 2011, 6:50 pm

c.evans wrote:Engine #2, (Mike's) had P-51 heads, but the 41 lb. difference in engine weight can be attributed to the SVO A-460 block. That's Ford aftermarket racing block with really thick cylinder walls and siamese cylinders, also a beefier bottom end.

Charlie

Oh sorry missed that little detail. Embarassed

Excellent information!

2fox January 6th 2012, 10:13 am

Have you ever weighed a 408 W ? With stock block.super victer intake.victer jr heads.ect?
I would like to know how much heavier the bbf would be thanks

rmcomprandy January 6th 2012, 11:38 am

2fox wrote:Have you ever weighed a 408 W ? With stock block.super victer intake.victer jr heads.ect?
I would like to know how much heavier the bbf would be thanks

The published shipping weights of FRPP crate engines which also include the pallet:
392 "Z" engine = 545 pounds
521 with A460 block = 700 pounds
514 with production block = 670 pounds

G-Code January 9th 2012, 1:30 pm

Race Engine Weights - Page 2 BoatengineatRandys

565", A-460 block, A-460 heads, Crower/SVO 4.25" stroke crank ( 76 lbs) weight as seen 620 lbs. Weighed on two certified scales.

G

bbf coupe December 12th 2012, 9:35 pm

New to site!! I love it,Thanks for the info...I was wondering what a dressed 460 based motor would weigh..
Thanks again!!

2fox February 21st 2013, 6:37 am

What about an aluminum block ?.with aluminum heads built up?
am.just wondering if it would.weigh about the same.has a stock Ford block 408w with aluminum heads.
LMK

dfree383 February 21st 2013, 7:24 am

take 50-60Lbs off the cast stock block builds and maybe upwards of 75-85lbs off the A460 block builds.

2fox February 21st 2013, 3:39 pm

fatal addiction September 5th 2013, 8:27 am

Any idea what the aluminum blocks weight?

Larry Williams September 5th 2013, 10:48 am

as per C. Evans

engine # 5 is an all alum. block 598 CID engine with TFS A-460 18 bolt heads and a TFS single plane intake manifold. Complete with carb, oil, flexplate, internal Kaase oil pump, vacuum pump but no starter,,,,it weighs 556 lbs.

D-CEL October 17th 2013, 12:21 pm

"by fatal addiction on September 5th 2013, 5:27 am

Any idea what the aluminum blocks weight?"

My un-machined A96 is 160lbs
probably 115-120lbs @ 4.600

Jason

OkieDave November 1st 2013, 11:55 am

This is very interesting. I had always been told the Fords were heavier than chevies but maybe that isn't true. Lately I'm playing with LS motors and turbo's. here's a surprise, an Iron LS block is about as heavy as an Iron BBF. the complete engine is Lighter I think but even an alum LS block isn't much lighter than alum BBF block.

fstrthnu373 July 23rd 2014, 12:29 pm

588 10.3 deck aluminum CC block, billet crank, aluminum rods, 18 bolt A460 heads, WW rockers, TFS single plane intake, 7 quart steel pan full of oil, Fogger with trash can noids, mid plate, motor plate, flywheel, wet sump with moroso external oil pump, timing belt drive, distributor, csr electric water pump, aerospace vacuum pump. 539lbs

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