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Post  feetfirst May 28th 2010, 6:11 am

Fired up my 515 a-headed motor, did a stall check on the transbrake.........7200... Shocked Shocked

This is an Ultimate Converter that was built for a little larger CI BBF a-headed motor, but, exact same weight car, same trans, same gear same everything.....except the motor. It stalled 6600 in this other car, which ran 8.40's at 161...........what does this mean when it goes to 7200 in mine??? Am I making this much more power?
Could be the SV -1 carb, which is absolutely nasty on the response / idle quality......

Guess we will find out tomorrow..... Very Happy Very Happy
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Post  richter69 May 28th 2010, 6:21 am

Carbs got nothing to do with it, what diameter converter?
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Post  feetfirst May 28th 2010, 6:24 am

Its a 9"...
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Post  richter69 May 28th 2010, 6:37 am

Prolly not exactly what it needs but it should not go that high.........converter charge pressures can affect stal. as well. I would think what you have is way too loose like it is.
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Post  dfree383 May 28th 2010, 2:48 pm

I'd send it back to ucc and get it restalled. I'm ditching my 8" and going with a 9", mine figured out at 28% slippage at the bash on the first full pass. affraid

might try some different fluid to see if it will tighten up a little too.
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Post  Nevs May 28th 2010, 2:55 pm

dfree383 wrote:I'd send it back to ucc and get it restalled. I'm ditching my 8" and going with a 9", mine figured out at 28% slippage at the bash on the first full pass. affraid

might try some different fluid to see if it will tighten up a little too.

28% is leaving a lot on the table Dave! Just think what it will do with a good working converter! Cool
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Post  dfree383 May 28th 2010, 3:08 pm

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dfree383 wrote:I'd send it back to ucc and get it restalled. I'm ditching my 8" and going with a 9", mine figured out at 28% slippage at the bash on the first full pass. affraid

might try some different fluid to see if it will tighten up a little too.

28% is leaving a lot on the table Dave! Just think what it will do with a good working converter! Cool

yep been on the phone with Lenny..... Just need to save up the $$$ cause the good stuff ain't cheap!
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Post  feetfirst May 28th 2010, 3:18 pm

Just picked up some JD hyguard, will try this first to get a baseline on what needs to be done.

28% out the back door is insane, dfree.....I just can't see this one being loose in the top, but we will see....


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Post  Lem Evans May 28th 2010, 3:22 pm

7,200.....it's gonna break something or flip over backwards.

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Post  feetfirst May 28th 2010, 3:27 pm

Lem Evans wrote:7,200.....it's gonna break something or flip over backwards.


Both....?? Embarassed Embarassed
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Post  richter69 May 28th 2010, 3:56 pm

9" is too small of a diameter IMO.
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Post  Lem Evans May 28th 2010, 4:00 pm

feetfirst wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:7,200.....it's gonna break something or flip over backwards.


Both....?? Embarassed Embarassed
I hope I'm wrong...... Smile

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Post  Nevs May 28th 2010, 4:34 pm

Lem Evans wrote:7,200.....it's gonna break something or flip over backwards.

If it doesn't blow the tires off, it's going to leave HARD!
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Post  whatbumper May 28th 2010, 8:48 pm

with that much power you will not see any or very minimal difference with the JD oil. just send it back and get it done right. that seems like an awfully small converter for that combo. the smallest we've ever ran was a 9.5"

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Post  feetfirst May 31st 2010, 8:56 pm

Well, I'm still reeling from the worst shakedown of a complete new chassis, and drivetrain combo ever..... Mad

Never made a full pass.........4 rocker bolts pulled clean out of the head, and to top it off, destroyed a brand new slick coming out of the burnout box, caught the front of the wheel well, and turned the fender lip, ripping it right out, and slicing the tire clean thru all the way around.......

The only thing I can think of, is im glad all this happened when it did, and its funny, the car stayed up till I rolled to the beams, and when I stopped, it tilted back/to the right.........must of been the anti roll bar keeping the car up......

Oh well, at least all the cards are on the table now.......hope to have some decent results shortly.... Embarassed
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Post  cool40 May 31st 2010, 10:55 pm

dam.......that's some of my luck your haven.get it fixed and try try again. Laughing
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Post  Nevs June 1st 2010, 4:48 am

Damn, talk about a bad day at the track! Sorry to hear.
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Post  dfree383 June 1st 2010, 5:07 am

I feel your Pain !!! Mines been fighting me too........ good thing it wasn't worse and glad you didn;t get hurt.
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Post  bigblockfox468 June 2nd 2010, 4:43 am

ugh that sux No Keep us updated Hugo Exclamation
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Post  feetfirst June 22nd 2010, 12:34 pm

Well, I got 5 passes in, but now have what I found is an ignition issue. Motor starts to break up pretty bad over 1/2 throttle...........soooooh, ran all weekend pretty much at half throttle trying to find the issue.

We tried a new carb ( dale cubic dominator) thought maybe the SV1 was the issue, tried 16 volt battery setup (from twin 12 volt yellow tops) to increase spark........no avail.

Come to find out the ignition system is maxxed out, and the coil is severely overloaded, and getting weaker every run. What I failed to realize is that cylinder pressures play a HUGE part in how much spark is required!!!!!!!

I don't really want to post, but my et's dont matter at this point until I get it resolved, but it did go 5.80 to the 1/8th at one point so far, and it goes straight!!!!....... Very Happy


Here is a pic.......whole new ride.............25.5 chassis with 29.5 x 10.5's.......with bars... Embarassed


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Post  richter69 June 22nd 2010, 1:45 pm

What ign. box and coil?
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Post  feetfirst June 22nd 2010, 2:03 pm

richter69 wrote:What ign. box and coil?


6AL & blaster 3....... Embarassed

It seems I have found its limits, going from 9.5-1 @ 175 compression to 14.6-1 @ 230+ compression.......

Time for a digital 7 anyways, to control my launch Very Happy
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Post  '65 T-BOLT June 22nd 2010, 2:07 pm

nice new ride! i prefer the four eyed fox's
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Post  richter69 June 22nd 2010, 3:36 pm

feetfirst wrote:
richter69 wrote:What ign. box and coil?


6AL & blaster 3....... Embarassed

It seems I have found its limits, going from 9.5-1 @ 175 compression to 14.6-1 @ 230+ compression.......

Time for a digital 7 anyways, to control my launch Very Happy


can hardly read that, but I'd swear it said MSD 6AL.................yeah I bet it was having issues lol. What were you thinking.............. Question
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Post  feetfirst June 22nd 2010, 3:44 pm

richter69 wrote:
feetfirst wrote:
richter69 wrote:What ign. box and coil?


6AL & blaster 3....... Embarassed

It seems I have found its limits, going from 9.5-1 @ 175 compression to 14.6-1 @ 230+ compression.......

Time for a digital 7 anyways, to control my launch Very Happy


can hardly read that, but I'd swear it said MSD 6AL.................yeah I bet it was having issues lol. What were you thinking.............. Question


To be honest, its been non stop since March, and never hit me till I was wiring the car.........I thought , its worked so well for 10 years, I'd give it a try..........live and learn??
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