NEED ADVICE ON 472 MOTOR

I HAVE A .60 OVER 460 BBF, FLAT TOP PISTIONS,FACTORY 1969 CRANK EAGLE RODS ,PROBE PISTION FLAT TOPS, DOVE HEADS,HAS A 622 SOLID FLAT TAPPET CAM,I BOUGHT THE CAR LIKE IT IS, IT HAS A 33/14.5/15 REAR TIRE,WITH A 4.11 GEAR AND A C6 WITH A 3500 STALL,RUNS 10.80S ,I KNOW I NEED MORE GEAR AND CONV.,BUT I WANT TO GO TO A HEAD THAT WILL MAKE POWER,THIS IS A RACE ONLY CAR,81 MUSTANG 2600LBS,I WANT TO RUN MID 9S, WHAT HEAD WILL BOLT ON WITH THIS SETUP WITH OUT CHANGING a bunch of other stuff,I WANT TO REMOVE HEADS AND BOLT ON THE OTHER SET WITH OUT LOWER MOTOR WORK,IS THERE A GOOD BOLT ON HEAD THAT MAKES BIG POWER THAT WILL USE MY ROLLER ROCKERS ECT..,I NEED ABOUT 700 HP TO DO WHAT I NEED ,I FIGURE I CAN GET 5 TENTHS OUT OF A GEAR CHANGE AND CONV., AND TUNING,ITS A SLUG OUT OF THE HOLE, IM RUNING A VICTOR INTAKE, WITH A 1050 DOM. CARB,MSD,LET ME KNOW I NEED THE HELP THIS IS MY 1ST BBF CAR,I WAS A CHEVY MAN TILL I BUILT MY 351 MAVERICK AND SEEN HOW FORDS RUN,SO NOW IM TRYING THE BBF THING...THANKS EVERYONE FOR ANY HELP

Whats done to the heads? do you have actual flows? What intake and Carb? What Ignition? What Convertor?

Need more Specs on the cam.

9's isn't an issue at total weight of 2600# with Dove heads and 472 inches.

Also please turn off the Caps, Thanks

Some will disagree but I think you have way too much tire to turn w/466. are you going to run 1/8 or 1/4.The gear for that combo imo would be a 4.30 w/29.5 to 31.5 tall tire. If you have flat tops that can be cut for valve reliefs I would go w/p-51 and if not probably the TFS street for a bolton head. Alot of things to consider. IMO, I would go buy a solid roller for the valve train.

rereading the listed spec, I think the issue is in the convertor and the cam.

The heads castings are well capible of 9's providing they have the proper work done to them, but if they are stock your spitting in the wind.

IVE NOT HAD THE HEADS OFF TO SEE IF THEY HAVE BEEN WORKED ANY,THEY MAY HAVE SOME WORK ,BUT I DOUBT ALOT,I FEEL THE TIRES ARE BIG ALSO,BUT THIS IS A TUBED CAR AND THEY ARE NEW , CAME WITH CAR ,IF I HAD BOUGHT THEM THEY WOUYLD BE 14/32S ,I WAS THINKING A 4.86 OR 5.13 FOR IT ,AND A 4500 STALL,WOULD GIVE ME AT LEAST 4 TENTHS,AND SOME MORE TUNING DEF WOULD HELP,IT HAS ZERO THROTTLE RESPONSE,I ADDED A 1/2 LINE SETUP AND A 280 PUMP,IT HAD A 5/16 LINE ,WITH A SUMMIT 120 PUMP,IM NOT SURE IF ITS WAY RICH OR WAY LEAN,IT HAD A 94 JET IN THE 1050 DOM,FRONT AND REAR, I WENT TO A 89 JET IN BOTH SIDES BUT HAVENT HAD A CHANCE TO TRY IT YET,IT DIDNT SEEM TO GET WARM VERY EASY, SO I THINKING IT WAS WAY RICH,I MADE 3 BACK TO BACK PASSES AND IT NEVER GOT OVER 170 ,I BOUGHT IT THE WAY IT IS ,SO IM STILL PLAYING WITH IT,TO GET IT TUNED,I HAVE 36 DEG. TIMING AT 3500 RPM,HOW DOES THAT SOUND, IT WAS 34 DEG.,THE VALVES ARE SET AT 17 ON BOTH SIDES,I DIDNT GET A CAM CARD WITH IT OR NOTHING ELSE,SO IM KINDA FEELING IT OUT,HAS ANY ONE EVER HEARD OF A 645 LIFT SOLID FLAT TAPPET CAM, IM TRYING TO FIND INFO ON IT,I WAS TOLD IT WAS A FLAT TOP 13 TO1 MOTOR,BUT KAASE SAID IT COULD ONLY BE AST THE MOST 12 TO 1,SO IM SURE I GOT SOME BULL ON THE MOTOR ,HOW IS 10.80S FOR WHAT I GOT ALSO , CAN I CALL ANYONE ID LIKE TO TALK TO A BBF GUY

#1 you need to know what your heads are and whats been done to them. Pull them and get some one to flow them and look them over. If the are stock you either need to upgrade (to something Aftermarket) or do work to them.

#2 A more up to date custom cam is inline

#3 need to look into a real convertor (after you figure out the heads and cam situtation)

#4 I wouldn't rush in to getting way more gear untill you figure out what you've got and what your going to do with the motor.

im going to race it and try to go mid 9s

If you want to run N/A,you will need a nice roller and some compression to run consistant mid 9's. jmho

You can get it done with the iron heads and flat tappet..............but a set of TFS street heads and a nice roller will make it much easier to get there.

kool how much are the tfs heads ,and what hp willl they make with a 12 to1 motor with the right cam

i have a glide i need to get a adapter kit for it

jaysstang wrote:kool how much are the tfs heads ,and what hp willl they make with a 12 to1 motor with the right cam

I had a 472 with some streets, very little work on the heads..........just port matched etc, solid roller in the 269/274 @.050, trw dome deal and some h beam rods.............ran 9.60's @ 3150#s......c/4 deal. That was with a Ron's toilet on methanol.....still would have been a 9 sec deal on gas.


Same heads with more work...more cam .......less compression and more stroke..........glide............3000#s..........9.01 best 1/4 and 5.60 best 1/8.


If you could renotch the pistons I'd get the P51 heads........... give you room to grow.

that what im thinking but it will be this winter unless i get a nice used set,i want to run the 5.70 index it takes a 6teen to make the index,i can run i think with gears and more stall,6.50s,so i need to gain 6 tenths,i figure cam change and better heads ,some tuning i can get there, id be surprized if the heads i have now have any porting,i run 6.90s with a 3500 stall and stock dove heads ,and a 4.10 gear with 33 tall tire how is that good are bad ,and have you heard of a flat tappet cam with 645 lift im trying to figure what cam i have

anyone got a good plug # i can run thats colder than i have this has the plug for a 71 460 bbf 4 bbl.,i need a colder plug but at autozone they cant find 1 unless i have a # or a car model to look up,i have the dove heads , 12 to 1 comp.flat top pistions

Their is a plug thread posted as a sticky with plug number if that helps.

jaysstang wrote:I HAVE A .60 OVER 460 BBF, FLAT TOP PISTIONS,FACTORY 1969 CRANK EAGLE RODS ,PROBE PISTION FLAT TOPS, DOVE HEADS,HAS A 622 SOLID FLAT TAPPET CAM,I BOUGHT THE CAR LIKE IT IS, IT HAS A 33/14.5/15 REAR TIRE,WITH A 4.11 GEAR AND A C6 WITH A 3500 STALL,RUNS 10.80S ,I KNOW I NEED MORE GEAR AND CONV.,BUT I WANT TO GO TO A HEAD THAT WILL MAKE POWER,THIS IS A RACE ONLY CAR,81 MUSTANG 2600LBS,I WANT TO RUN MID 9S, WHAT HEAD WILL BOLT ON WITH THIS SETUP WITH OUT CHANGING a bunch of other stuff,I WANT TO REMOVE HEADS AND BOLT ON THE OTHER SET WITH OUT LOWER MOTOR WORK,IS THERE A GOOD BOLT ON HEAD THAT MAKES BIG POWER THAT WILL USE MY ROLLER ROCKERS ECT..,I NEED ABOUT 700 HP TO DO WHAT I NEED ,I FIGURE I CAN GET 5 TENTHS OUT OF A GEAR CHANGE AND CONV., AND TUNING,ITS A SLUG OUT OF THE HOLE, IM RUNING A VICTOR INTAKE, WITH A 1050 DOM. CARB,MSD,LET ME KNOW I NEED THE HELP THIS IS MY 1ST BBF CAR,I WAS A CHEVY MAN TILL I BUILT MY 351 MAVERICK AND SEEN HOW FORDS RUN,SO NOW IM TRYING THE BBF THING...THANKS EVERYONE FOR ANY HELP

A little food for thought in your future here:
Your "lazy ass" needs to turn off the CAPS lock ...1
I struggled to read this and got about half way through it. Then said to hell will this crap. I'm sure I'm not the only one...

wow dude you always have something rude to say,id never do buss with you,you would think a guy who has a buss would try to be nicer not so rude,im 1 less person that will ever use anything you have to offer....your just a rude ass mf get a lift stop jumping peoples posts to just say rude stuff no 1 wants to listen to....there

jaysstang wrote:wow dude you always have something rude to say,id never do buss with you,you would think a guy who has a buss would try to be nicer not so rude,im 1 less person that will ever use anything you have to offer....your just a rude ass mf get a lift stop jumping peoples posts to just say rude stuff no 1 wants to listen to....there

Take it easy........ your the one with no forum edicate. Have a little respect for the senior members.

i was asking for help if he didnt have any help to offer on my motor he shouldnt hijack my post to say rude stuff this is the 2nd post he has gotten rude on,i over looked it on the other, i may not be comp savy, but i try my best, if your forum feels everyone needs to be savy mabe you you say that on the join requriments, no poeple who cant type good or dont kn ow how to do forum typing, im not going to lay down on my on topic when a guy is rude,he can just move on not reply or help if all he can say is rude stuff ...in this time when its hard to get buss. id think a buss owner would be more respectful of a guy topics and just butt out if he cant just help

Agreed the capslock needs to go, and you need to know how to take certain members...............

Surf's up!!!!!!

richter69 wrote:Surf's up!!!!!!

"Ahahahahahah Wipeout!!!!"

jaysstang wrote:i was asking for help if he didnt have any help to offer on my motor he shouldnt hijack my post to say rude stuff this is the 2nd post he has gotten rude on,i over looked it on the other, i may not be comp savy, but i try my best, if your forum feels everyone needs to be savy mabe you you say that on the join requriments, no poeple who cant type good or dont kn ow how to do forum typing, im not going to lay down on my on topic when a guy is rude,he can just move on not reply or help if all he can say is rude stuff ...in this time when its hard to get buss. id think a buss owner would be more respectful of a guy topics and just butt out if he cant just help

Actually if you'd learn a little paintence, he'd probably help you more than most anybody here. I will also tell you that bitching about senior members will not get you help for alot of others here too. So.... Say... Sorry Randy, I'll turn the caps off, I now understand that thats considered rude on forums, could you help me make my car faster......... It would be real simple and everyone will get along alot better

hey you do that and ill do what i do,im not a lazy ass dont like to be called it, you say sorry to everyone who talks to you rude ill do what i do...there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onqzua4bRHY

jaysstang wrote:hey you do that and ill do what i do,im not a lazy ass dont like to be called it, you say sorry to everyone who talks to you rude ill do what i do...there

Have it your way..... Good Luck with your build.